Can MPC Sequences & Programs be used in othr smplsequencers?

Basically, I made a beat on my MPC 4000. I want to do some further work on this beat using a sampler/sequencer program like Cubase, Logic, etc. I want to be able to

Is there any way that I can take the sequences, samples, programs, and multis that I saved onto a disk and simply import them into a sampler/sequencer progam on my PC?

If this is not the best way, then what is the best way to do this? Syncing the timing of Cubase with the MPC and then recording the individual tracks off of the MPC into Cubase? Or syncing the timing up and then recording the MIDI data from the MPC into Cubase, and then loading the samples from the MPC into a sampler in Cubase so that the MIDI data from the MPC can trigger the samples in Cubase, thus reproducing the sequence from the MPC but in Cubase?

The last option makes the most sense to me, but it seems unnecessarily time consuming.

Also, sound quality is an issue... which method will produce the best sound quality? Is it better to record audio from the MPC, or will it sound better if I just use MIDI to trigger the sample in Cubase?


Any help is appreciated, thanks

Question is, WHY do you want to move everything over to Cubase? Most people just sync the MPC to Cubase or vice-versa, or they record the audio tracks for further mixing/processing.

The sequencing on the MPC is sweet, so why move that to Cubase? Only thing that will do is mess up your workflow.

If you still want to do it, you can export your sequences as midi files, that's easy enough. But exporting the programs is going to be the problem. I don't have a 4k, but if it saves Z8-format programs you might be able to find a translator that converts them to Halion programs, but I have no idea how well that works. Of course you could just save the WAVs, but recreating the program by hand is going to be a bltch...

My advice: just sync up like everybody else. If you need to process the MPC's sounds further, just track them up in Cubase.

By "sync up like everybody else," do you mean simply using the MPC as a midi controller to control a VST (or DXI) software sampler inside of a sequencer program such as cubase?

If so, is it possible to sync Cubase up with the MPC's sequencer such that the Master tempo of the MPC controls the Master tempo of the Cubase Project? Also, is it possible to start Cubase's recording of the MIDI sequence playback from the MPC in such a way that Cubase will start recording the MIDI data just as the MPC starts sending it, so that the MIDI data will be automatically and precisely in time with the timing in the Cubase project?

If so, what are the operations that produce such a setup called?

its all in the manual; seriously read the part on syncing in there as it will teach you others things too

greg

I did read the manual section about MIDI synchronization, but it doesn't answer the specific questions that I asked in the last post.

The manual assumes a familiarity with the way that sequencers are synchronized through MIDI, a familiarity that I do not possess.

OK, if you press shifta nd '9' it will open the midi screen- in here you can define which sync method and which midi out- set it so its sending sync messages out of the channel you want- make sure you are recieving those messages on the same channel in cubase (should be somewhere in the sync menu) and then cubase will become slave and the mpc the master....

greg

max_planck735 wrote:By "sync up like everybody else," do you mean simply using the MPC as a midi controller to control a VST (or DXI) software sampler inside of a sequencer program such as cubase?

If so, is it possible to sync Cubase up with the MPC's sequencer such that the Master tempo of the MPC controls the Master tempo of the Cubase Project? Also, is it possible to start Cubase's recording of the MIDI sequence playback from the MPC in such a way that Cubase will start recording the MIDI data just as the MPC starts sending it, so that the MIDI data will be automatically and precisely in time with the timing in the Cubase project?

If so, what are the operations that produce such a setup called?

You're talking about using the MPC as a controller, like you would use a midi keyboard, with the added functionalty of using the MPC's transport controls. The answer is yes, you could do that; for instance if you like the processing and features your softsampler offers, but prefer the MPC's pads for inputing notes. But you'd basically be turning your MPC into a very expensive MPD16 or TriggerFinger.

What I was talking about is using the MPC as you would normally use it; the internal sampler and sequencer. Syncing it with Cubase means that if you hit 'play' on one, the other plays along, "in sync'...

I like sampling and sequencing in the MPC, for it's directness, I like the sound and I like how the sequencer works. I sync Logic to the MPC for longer samples, to layer vocals over the beats, and to track the final results, either track-by-track or direct to stereo.

lo-fi wrote:Question is, WHY do you want to move everything over to Cubase? Most people just sync the MPC to Cubase or vice-versa, or they record the audio tracks for further mixing/processing.

The sequencing on the MPC is sweet, so why move that to Cubase? Only thing that will do is mess up your workflow.

If you still want to do it, you can export your sequences as midi files, that's easy enough. But exporting the programs is going to be the problem. I don't have a 4k, but if it saves Z8-format programs you might be able to find a translator that converts them to Halion programs, but I have no idea how well that works. Of course you could just save the WAVs, but recreating the program by hand is going to be a bltch...

My advice: just sync up like everybody else. If you need to process the MPC's sounds further, just track them up in Cubase.

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