Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By 4dahaterz Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:06 pm
Quik Tipz: Secrets to a Platinum Vocal Sound

Nothing is more important in a song than the lead vocal. Simply put...the lead vocal is the primary focal point of your entire mix. Because of its importance and need for constant placement within a mix, proper microphone, EQ, and compression techniques are essential. Learn the same techniques as used in platinum hits...

1) Microphone Techniques: In order to achieve a professional high fidelity vocal recording, using a condenser mic along with a good pop-screen is the only way to go. Condensers capture vocal resonance and vocal frequency spectrums far better than dynamic microphones. Also, before recording, be certain to switch the mic's settings to the cardioid pickup pattern with the high pass filter enabled to remove low end rumble from the source recording signal.

2) Vocal EQ Techniques: If proper microphone techniques have been implemented, a minimal amount of EQ should be needed. However, if you find the vocals could still use added clarity, try boosting 1-3 decibels between 5khz - 7khz. If you're needing an extra airy texture added to the vocals, try boosting 1-3 decibels between 10khz-12khz. Also, any low frequencies 100hz and below should be rolled off and/or high-passed to add further low end control to your overall mix.

3) Vocal Compression Techniques: With compression, you are seeking to even out inconsistencies in volume levels while at the same time trying not to destroy the natural dynamics inherent in the vocal performance. The trick is to set your compressor with a high ratio of 5:1 to 8:1 with a semi-fast attack and a medium release time. Most important is your setting of the compressor's threshold: Set your threshold level where gain reduction occurs only for the loudest volume peaks in the vocal recording. This will even out level inconsistencies all the while retaining natural vocal dynamics.

By fader-pro Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:04 pm
HAte to say it but a condenser mic is about the last choice I would reccomend for vocals....You'll get a much warmer, more natural sound from either a dynamic or a ribbon mic...but don't take my word for it - put a condenser and a dynamic mic on your vocalist....then just choose the best track....

By macman Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:25 pm
I know people who have laced shit with a SM58. The front end is the most important factor here (don't forget the singer) If that **** can't lace shit no mic is gonna save that performance.

Master the art of capturing a great performance!!!!!!!!

That's what a pro vocal is. ( The sound comes natural)


Front end SSL G383 MIC PRE
Comp URIE 1176
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By itchyvinyl Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:36 pm
I believe also that different mics sound good on different voices.
Try a couple or three, and then pick.
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By DSTRUCT Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:20 am
i record all my vocals and my artists vocals on an sm57
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By Science Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:42 am
on the real.............that is useful info!!!!!!!

By Enigma Beatz Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:36 pm
The most effective mic to use would be a condenser microphone with a cardoid pickup pattern. Dynamic mics dont have as big of a frequency response as condenser microphones. This will lead you to clearer more defined vocals. You can also add a great tube pre amp to warm up the overall tone.

I had to study this stuff, i'm a Berklee Music Production major.
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By jaem Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:41 pm
Enigma Beatz wrote:I had to study this stuff, i'm a Berklee Music Production major.


yeah well thanks again for the text book lesson there.....

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


how can you give 3 pointers that will help in ALL vocal situations......

a mic=a paintbrush

and you definately aint paintin no masterpiece with one brush used with the same method everytime....


ya feel me???

By fader-pro Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:16 pm
fader-pro wrote:HAte to say it but a condenser mic is about the last choice I would reccomend for vocals....You'll get a much warmer, more natural sound from either a dynamic or a ribbon mic...but don't take my word for it - put a condenser and a dynamic mic on your vocalist....then just choose the best track....


OOPS!....havent been taking my medicine regularly it seems...What I meant to say was just the reverse....I agree that a Large Diaphram Condenser is the correct route to take when recording vocals...if these pesky voices in my head would just stop and let me concentrate.... :oops:

By Enigma Beatz Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:27 pm
haha...LOL at fader pro.

By Beat God Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:55 pm
good mic, good pre and good vocalist are all givens, but most people don't know that vocals need to be stacked. whether u use them or not every part needs to be at least doubled. u will only know if u need it when it comes time for mixdown. stacked vocals is the difference between what u hear on the radio and what u hear out of your own tracks
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By jaem Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:20 pm
multiple takes for comp tracks are your best friend

By benfresh Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:18 am
i disagree.. if you can get an mc to do the shit in one take and adlib over a couple times it is more natural' sounding than comping.. just my opinion.
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By bboutit Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:01 pm
benfresh wrote:i disagree.. if you can get an mc to do the **** in one take and adlib over a couple times it is more natural' sounding than comping.. just my opinion.


Depends on the artist, some just can't do it. I like your idea as it makes my job as a producer a lot easier, but a lot of ppl are incapable of doing this... Sometimes the ones who aren't but try, will make your job harder as an Engineer to get that sound right.

By fader-pro Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:32 pm
Beat God wrote:good mic, good pre and good vocalist are all givens, but most people don't know that vocals need to be stacked. whether u use them or not every part needs to be at least doubled. u will only know if u need it when it comes time for mixdown. stacked vocals is the difference between what u hear on the radio and what u hear out of your own tracks


For rap and hip hop i see a whole lot of folks doubling, alot of pop too but some blues, jazz and pop tunes get thier "feel" from that solo, lonely voice...it just takes a really good vocalist. Electronic doubling is a also a decent tool....I recently had a female vocalist in doing a "world" type of song. She nailed it on the first pass but I had her do it three more times and it got a very tight "group sing" kinda vibe srecw doubling - quadrupling was the bomb for this track!.....i guess it's good to try all your options out. Comping from mutiple tracks is something I have to do when I sing cause I'm not that good a singer - doubling too, but when the day is done it sounds like I can really sing - God belss Tecnology :wink: