Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By ess kode NZ Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:40 am
Aiight, had my 2kXL for a couple of weeks and i've been sampling my ass off - all from my PC and Vinyl. I've managed to punch out ONE good sounding beat, and now i'm out of new samples, ****!
Where can I get dope samples from? Should i just buy a shitload more vinyl? Cause that is the most original way to produce shit right? Or should i look into borrowing a Triton for a week or something {which i can do} and hooking it up and downloading some samples from that?
thanks
ess.
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By dubmunkey Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:05 am
....and more, i would not only stay with vinyl and sound modules but maybe try some sample cds too- ok you have to be careful cos there is a lot of crap out there but who says its not original using a sample cd? you will be tweaking/ effecting the sounds right? if so it doesn't matter where you source as long as you work on them enough to feel that they are original...i spose it comes down to sound..if you want that old skool feel it will be vinyl, if its nu rnb sound it will be modules and sample cd's....i use a mixture of all three.....and then layer layer layer....

ive been on this mission for a while now and probly have 3-4 cds chock full of drum hits....

greg
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By egokilla Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:01 pm
Borrow that Triton!

Staying "original" is fucn expensive man if all you sample from is Vinyl. Have you considered sampling from MP3 or even Midi?

The computer you are on right now is an excellent source for samples. Lots of trial versions of Softsynths available for download. Plus tons of demo kits from sample sites. I can break you off too if you want, you just have to go to my site.

If you can borrow sound modules, do so and do it as much as possible. I have arrangments where I can take gear, sample it and then return it within a resonable time frame. Maybe you can hit up a pawn shop and work something out with one of those cats. Another thing that is cheap is to buy sound modules on ebay and turn around and sell them after you sample them.

Lot's of cheap ways to build your library. There are some sample sites and roms you do wanna stay away from. Allot of these cats only sell samples that they pulled directly from their Triton.

By kool Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:40 am
how can u sample from midi ? midi doesnt transmit audio ?
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By DOVESKI Thu Aug 21, 2003 8:44 am
Get some vinyl, cds whatever. All the hottest beats in the last 10 years have been chopped and diced from original recordings. Gives hip-hop music that raw energy. But appreciate what your sampling, smoke a blunt - take your time, thats what makes a good beat digger/sampler.

You can go to the thrift shop in a black hood, and pick up 12 beats for 5 dollars, feel me? Go to the latin side of the hood and pick up 12 more for 4 dollars. Aint nothing like the feeling of having 50 records to go through when you get home to your MP that you know you paid no more than 20 dollars for.

Make a day out of it, what you gonna do on Saturday, watch TV? Make a day out of it, get some nice herb cruise around the city and find some vinyl. Bump the beats on the way, take your girlie or your homie, have fun, know what i mean?

All you need is a good music collection, a good ear, and maybe one cheap synth/sampler for the bells and whistles, basslines, percussions, light leads, etc just to build on the foundation. You already got an MPC.

On drum sounds, theres plenty of sites on the net to cop cool drums, use em, filter em with the envolopes on your MPC, alter em on the cracked copy of Wavelab you got whatever, you can get 20 different kicks from one jank kick, be resourceful.

peez.
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By egokilla Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:29 am
Let's say you love the bassline from a Dixie Chick song-

Load the midi file in your hardware/software and let your module play the pattern. Save the file as a .wav

You have just sampled from midi.
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By ess kode NZ Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:27 pm
holly shit i didnt realise how intense this sample finding procedure was! no shit that is dope! **** i'm going hard now......
churr yo
ess.
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By Donjay Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:48 am
If you want that vinyl sound you sould lower the bit rate by resampling your drum sounds from the original 44,000 to 22,000. Your drums will sound crunch as ****. All so add some reverb to the sound. I learned this from a friend.
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By xkwest Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:33 am
Donjay wrote:If you want that vinyl sound you sould lower the bit rate by resampling your drum sounds from the original 44,000 to 22,000. Your drums will sound crunch as ****. All so add some reverb to the sound. I learned this from a friend.

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i do that all the time... if i want some grimey drums...

sometimes... i would resample at 8 bit and resample back 16bit for mpc compatibility.... works wonders on most drums... never worked for hihats