Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By EMFinite Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:15 am
Sup fam!

I'm trying to use FL with Cubase and I'm a little confused as to how the whole rewire deal works.

It is my understanding that you start Cubase first and then open FL. The rewire screen pops up and it allows you to flow between the two apps. When I start a new project in Cubase and import a FLP. audio file I get nothing.

How can I take my FL audio files (no midi) and track them to Cubase?

Thanks!
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By EMFinite Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:38 am
Nevermind, I figured it out.

By Beat God Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:40 pm
well i will answer for others that don't know. u open cubase then the rewired app. the name of the app will show up in a menu in cubase. u now r able to activate the audio stream in cubase. to import the sound u set right and left markers solo the rewire track and audio mixdown dat itch.

By phatbeats Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:05 pm
Emfinite PM me on how to do this.I've been trying for months.
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By EMFinite Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:38 am
actually im avoiding rewire because i dont really like the way it works. i found a way that works for me.

what i did was build my beats in FL. created a folder for each beat and save each individual track (kik, snare, hatz, etc) as a wav file inside that folder.

then i go into cubase start a new project. and add audio tracks and import them individually. might seem like the long way but itll have to do until i learn the ins and outs of this program.

By Beat God Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:03 am
emf that is what u would have to do using rewire anyway. u can't just drag the beats from fl into cubase. like i said u need to solo the rewire channel and then solo the track in fl and do a audio mixdown (export) in cubase. i wouldn't export files infl cause i'm not too sure about their audio engine.

By orjanbeats Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:00 am
It's fine to import wave files from FL as long as you import kicks as one file, snares as one file, samples as one file, etc. FL does not have very good summing algoritms (is it called that in English?), but it doesn't matter as long as the renderes sounds lies in the same frequency range.
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By EMFinite Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:41 pm
aiight cool.

the rewire thing kills my work flow (switching back and forth). the only advantage to rewire is it saves computer resources. but your compromising your work flow a bit.

i rather start out by going into FL compose my beats and save each indivdual track as a wav file. shut FL down and be done with FL.

then open up cubase and finish my work up with my mic and 1082 controller.

oh i got a few quick questions, when recording vocals-- since the vocals are recorded to one channel they are mono right?

how can i record my vocals in stereo? do i need something to plug my mic into before my 1082? or should i just copy and paste the vocal track and pan one hard left and the other hard right?

i tried the copy and paste panning thing but the panning thing wouldnt work. i went to the mixer in cubase and pan them opposite of each other but only the panned right worked. and there was no sound for the one panned left.

thanks for the replies.

By Beat God Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:36 pm
Copying a vocal track and playing them both at the same time will make them phase. u will have to pitch shift 1 slightly and shift it a fe millisecs to avoid phasing. i don't copy vocals i get the artist to re-sing it 1 or even 2 more times. So never just copy a vocal and play them at the same time. even if panning one hard right and the other hard left didn't lead to the problem u r having, it would sound the same as it would u just keeping it mono. this is because the same information is in both right and left channels. the whole point of stereo is to have different info in both channels. keep in mind in cubase that if u put a stereo effect on a mono track then it is now stereo. so there is no reason to have a stereo vocal unless u put a stereo effect on it. my workflow with rewire is to compose everything that i need to do then do the bouncing into cubase. so your workflow isn't interupted. that is pretty much what u r doing, but i am telling u that u don't have to create the files outside of cubase u can do it right in cubase via solo and mixdown.

By Beat God Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:37 pm
Copying a vocal track and playing them both at the same time will make them phase. u will have to pitch shift 1 slightly and shift it a fe millisecs to avoid phasing. i don't copy vocals i get the artist to re-sing it 1 or even 2 more times. So never just copy a vocal and play them at the same time. even if panning one hard right and the other hard left didn't lead to the problem u r having, it would sound the same as it would u just keeping it mono. this is because the same information is in both right and left channels. the whole point of stereo is to have different info in both channels. keep in mind in cubase that if u put a stereo effect on a mono track then it is now stereo. so there is no reason to have a stereo vocal unless u put a stereo effect on it. my workflow with rewire is to compose everything that i need to do then do the bouncing into cubase. so your workflow isn't interupted. that is pretty much what u r doing, but i am telling u that u don't have to create the files outside of cubase u can do it right in cubase via solo and mixdown.
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By EMFinite Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:06 pm
aight cool. thanks B!

i do the file thing for work flow and organization. but i'll try your way to see how that works out.

the panning thing worked out when i adjusted the controls on the 1082. man that thing is unbelievable. i got the vocals on one track panned in the middle so i can hear it in both monitors.

i also tried aligning one of the tracks a few millisec ahead of the original vocal track and that worked also.

i feel you on the 2-3 takes. thats the right way to do it. right now im just sorting it all out. and learning the software and machine.

i recommend this fw1082 unit to anyone who is doing home recording. it works flawlessly with cubase. ive had no issues with anything.everything works perfect.

i didnt even need the sx3, because this unit came with le. which works fine. it doesnt have all the advanced features of sx3, but i dont really need the advanced features.

i have learned how to record and everything, now im working on mixing, eqing etc.

just curous B, is there a particular way you arrange your tracks when mixing? is there a special spot where you align the vocal tracks ?

i dont want my vocals to sound like they on top of a beat. but combined.

example of an arrangement:

kick l snare l vocal l hi hats l keys l vocal l bass l syth l

does it matter where the vocals are arranged when mixing?

Thanks.

By Beat God Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:22 pm
i mix hip hop and r&b differently. i will pm u with my secret which i have taught a lot of guys who mix other genres but want to try hip hop also.
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By EMFinite Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:30 pm
cool. i only make hip hop music as well.

im an emcee. gyeaaaaaaaah!!