Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By HabitualMusic Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:29 am
The homies the engineer for Richie Rich's studio out in hollywood and that dude came in during the mixdown and was doin all the drum mutes. I.E.muting out drums hear and there to break thing up a little. They have the protools hd set up Is there any way possible to this on a multi track program like cubase or acid? What about any other way of doin this? This technique sounds better to me rather than having multiple sequences.

I saw a beat digging documentry floatin around here awile ago with Dimond D and he was doin the same thing.

By aliengroover Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:37 am
You can mute whatever, whenever you like. You can also do something called automation. It's an age old technique where it seems like a ghost came in, memorized your mutes and volume changes, and then grows 100 arms and recreates it everytime you play the song/mix back. It used to cost you a million dollars, but now it's available in most software and hardware made in the 21st century. It's a beautiful thing. My personal favorite feature of today's DAWs.
Peace

By aliengroover Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:52 am
What's with your eyes rolling? I answered your question. Automation is one of mankind's greatest inventions. Trust me, you don't wanna be the guy that messes up an otherwise perfect "manual" run. :wink:
Peace
User avatar

By jonathan morris Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:28 am
you're gonna put in time doing the mutes weather its during the mix down or the creation of the beat. IMO you should just do it right in the first place. Get the beat hot from the get go.

I can see it now.....

"So this beat will have a drop right here.... and another right here..... just wait until i get the software, then this shyt will be soundin hot"

you can do it on your mpc, stop being lazy.

By aliengroover Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:50 am
jonathan morris wrote:I can see it now.....

"So this beat will have a drop right here.... and another right here..... just wait until i get the software, then this shyt will be soundin hot"


Lol, you know if I was trying to drink something, it woulda spit right out. For some reason, that really cracked me up. Probably because, at the heart of it, some people actually think like that. But seriously...

I can't agree with doing the "drops" when I do the track. Granted, I'll do a run when I dump a rough copy or even for a beat CD, but I'll never commit to it. I prefer to do that kind of thing after the vocals are recorded. For me, when it comes to mixing, unless it's an instrumental, my philosophy is to make sure the track supports the vocals, not the other way around.
Peace

By Beat God Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:06 am
music making and lazyness don't go well together.

By HabitualMusic Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:16 am
aliengroover wrote:
jonathan morris wrote:I can see it now.....

"So this beat will have a drop right here.... and another right here..... just wait until i get the software, then this shyt will be soundin hot"


Lol, you know if I was trying to drink something, it woulda spit right out. For some reason, that really cracked me up. Probably because, at the heart of it, some people actually think like that. But seriously...

I can't agree with doing the "drops" when I do the track. Granted, I'll do a run when I dump a rough copy or even for a beat CD, but I'll never commit to it. I prefer to do that kind of thing after the vocals are recorded. For me, when it comes to mixing, unless it's an instrumental, my philosophy is to make sure the track supports the vocals, not the other way around.
Peace


I was a little unclear...I completly agree with doin the drum mutes round the vocals that was what i was tryin to get at. I use to just cut out a kick and a snare here and there in the edit window of the sequencer but its tedious and dosent exactly give it a true sound .Just was curious if any one had tecnique doin it in real time rather than stoppin the track editing it then replaying etc.
User avatar

By TBonus76 Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:34 am
I think they were tring to say that you can get way more intricate by stopping, editing, etc., than you can by doing it on the fly like you mentioned.

Personally, I like to take my rough drum arrangement pretty far on the MPC using different sequences and a song mode, then I multi track the song to Sony Vegas, then I change the arrangement from there. Many times though, I will end up swapping certain drums from one sequence to the other. Sometimes I just make 10 different sequences, string em back to back, then totally arrange it in Vegas. Editing is a lot nicer on a DAW than trying to do it all on the fly or on the MPC.
User avatar

By jonathan morris Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:23 pm
ditto my friend^^^^^^^^^^^^
User avatar

By c.toon Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:37 pm
more mpc, more power.
User avatar

By Antonym Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:36 pm
1 sequence beats are doomed to simplicity and a lack of creative motivation...utilize song mode and program the hell out of your songs.
User avatar

By jonathan morris Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:12 pm
YES ant yes,

take this advice, let's put a stop to repetetive beats my fraynes.