Sample Chopping/editing MPC vs PC

Hey wasup fellas. I noticed alot of u guys use Soundforge or Wave Editor, and other software to clean/fix up your samples. I'm jus wandering do u guys sample in the MPC first then transfer the samples to your computer or do you sample straight into your computer and chop it up there?

I'm just wandering as I'm pondering tweaking my samples on my computer, but i dont plan on chopping up my samples on my computer b/c im more comfortable doing it on my MPC (even though the screen is tiny). Jus a question of production techniques...


Thanks yall peace....

I myself sample about 98% of my stuff thru the MPC. I use Soundforge to perfect my sample points and to add efx (Waves). The PC just makes things less of a hassle. Less squinting would be the mos oobvious. But yeah, play around with some software you don't have to sample in one sspecific piece of equipment . Whatever tool you're comfortable with work it!

I cannot Highly recommend SoundForge Enough...

I still have Version 4.5..... I use it to Gate, Distort, Pitch, Compress my drum hits. I spend hours sorting drum samples and getting them setup right in SF before I import them in the MPC... then once I am there I can get down to business....

This is the quickest way to phat drums....guaranteed!

Madness wrote:I cannot Highly recommend SoundForge Enough...
I still have Version 4.5..... I use it to Gate, Distort, Pitch, Compress my drum hits. I spend hours sorting drum samples and getting them setup right in SF before I import them in the MPC... then once I am there I can get down to business....This is the quickest way to phat drums....guaranteed!

I do exactly this also, I rarealy sample into the MPC. Usually I will get sounds from CD's/sample CD's and sound forge em to death then import as madness says. I started out a while back on 4.5, went through all versions less 5.0 and now I'm at 7.0. I will never change wave editors I swear....All the "warmth, grit and dirt" that people are looking for in their sound can be processed and imposed on their samples in SF.

cool what r soem major effects or ways to process em to get that sound in sounde forge ? like what should i be doing to em ? load a drum sound and add what ? liek what is my basic first few steps ? ie gate , limit , compress ?? what r they ?> thX

i sample everything into my computer now using nuendo then ill do tweaks and later save them (mix down) to a folder. I just started this lil ideal....i would open up a project in nuendo and ask for about 30 tracks. Ill next start extracting sounds from my mpc that i created by layering or just want to do something different to it. I use track one and sample the a drum. then ill go to track two and do the same with a snare or what ever sound. Before you know it ill have about 30 sounds in. Since i have a laptop ill take it with me and get the start and end points right. Ill put a few plugins on the master channel. this way i dont got to always take off plugins from the different channels when i want to work on a different sound. I find this good for me cause. if i need some new drums ill just open of one my nuendo projects that i use for creating new sounds find what i want do some tweaks then mix only that track down into a fold transfer it to the mpc editor and make new program and im out. i hope that all came out good.

joebonix wrote:cool what r soem major effects or ways to process em to get that sound in sounde forge ? like what should i be doing to em ? load a drum sound and add what ? liek what is my basic first few steps ? ie gate , limit , compress ?? what r they ?> thX

I use gate on some drums loops to get the drums and chop them up, I use a little compression sometimes on the final mix of drums mostly.

it depends.

i will sample onto the MPC if i want that "sound". otherwise its straight through my mackie and delta44.

i will resample onto the MPC through a tube compressor (eg the Fatman) or any number of signal paths depending on the sound i want.

dont forget that every bit of gear has its own sonic fingerprint so to speak, so sampling on your mpc, and sampling on whatever audio card you have will sound different (wether your ears can tell or not).

hell, i have sampled onto a stereo VHS before for tape saturation, but thats another story.

D_Samp wrote:hell, i have sampled onto a stereo VHS before for tape saturation, but thats another story.

That's cool. I used to record mixtapes to HiFi-VHS because you could do a longer continuous mix than you could get with a 45 minute cassette side...and they sound better than cassette too. I haven't thought of using VHS just for tape saturation, although I've done it with cassette.

so do yall think the sound is different? when i sample into the mpc it sounds ALOT phatter than sampling into my computer. i think the computer actually takes ALOT out of the recordings and makes everything sound thin. thats one thing that sucks. but i guess you can get it back with plugins but that sounds not so good. i just got cool edit but its still in the wrap so i can return it....should i get soundforge instead?
or just stick with my 001 system? peace
jeff

sky8studios wrote:so do yall think the sound is different? when i sample into the mpc it sounds ALOT phatter than sampling into my computer. i think the computer actually takes ALOT out of the recordings and makes everything sound thin. thats one thing that sucks. but i guess you can get it back with plugins but that sounds not so good. i just got cool edit but its still in the wrap so i can return it....should i get soundforge instead?
or just stick with my 001 system? peace
jeff

so your soundcard/convertors are a Digi001? whats your signal path?

i wouldnt go so bizarre as to say recording on a pc makes things "thin". thats just such a subjective and broad thing to say.

anyway thats a boring and passe topic so back to the vhs.. yeah...

vhs will saturate better then normal c-90 style tape. there are a few tricks though, but i iwll let you dig them up, plenty of info on the net if you wish. i will give you a heads-up though and say there are different carrier signals on VHS.....

ps, this trick was popular with a lot of DNB producers in the late 90's, thats where i picked it up. compressors werent cheap and plugins were crap so we had to phatten and roughen out tunes any way we could.