Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By BreakMyFever Tue Jan 13, 2004 6:30 pm
I'm having this problem of not knowing so much about basic drum patterns, time measurements, bpm, etc., so I was thinking of buying a book ("how to drum") just to understand the basics of drums. Anybody has any recommendation?
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By BRAVO Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:08 pm
Do mean interms of programming of playing kit?
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By itchyvinyl Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:34 pm
Why not take a few drum lessons to learn the basic concepts?

By BreakMyFever Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:36 pm
In terms of programming breaks on the MPC... It looks like you really have to know the basics: what is a bar?, what does 4/4 mean?, how does a basic break beat pattern looks like?
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By descartes Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:49 pm
druming in reality is different than on mpc, so books for drumers probably wont help too much. if you feel like getting one, try the library before you spend cash...

the best thing ive found is experiment conjoined with the examination of the waveforms of drum breaks you like... recycle is a big help here, untill you learn how to cut by hand.
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By Boogie Man Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:32 pm
BreakMyFever wrote:In terms of programming breaks on the MPC... It looks like you really have to know the basics: what is a bar?, what does 4/4 mean?, how does a basic break beat pattern looks like?
This is why I stress that before someone goes out and buys a 1200 dollar machine, that they should first spend 150 on a beginner drum machine to learn the basics.
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By itchyvinyl Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:23 pm
Boogie Man wrote:
BreakMyFever wrote:In terms of programming breaks on the MPC... It looks like you really have to know the basics: what is a bar?, what does 4/4 mean?, how does a basic break beat pattern looks like?
This is why I stress that before someone goes out and buys a 1200 dollar machine, that they should first spend 150 on a beginner drum machine to learn the basics.


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By BRAVO Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:39 pm
Man u sound like you are at the bottom of the curve.....

better start here I think

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 20-7446262

Try and learn some theory first.

Stay away from breakbeat for the time being- The make up of those are much to complx to grasp. Keep in basic - One step at a time

Brav'

By Needle201 Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:02 am
well, he bought the expensive gear first, so he might as well learn the stuff on it. i learned my basics on a TR 707 though, which might be easier to get into than the MPC style..
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By BRAVO Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:55 am
Needle201 wrote:well, he bought the expensive gear first, so he might as well learn the stuff on it...


Not sure I agree here... its kinda like saying you've got a 1200cc Moterbike so you might aswel get on it and try and keep your balance....One pull too many on the throttle and it could be tears b4 bedtime.

I say read up on bikes abit first... Takes some lessons then learn abit more about what it is your bike does

If you choose to ignore me, Im sure a few of us will be able to pay you a visit whilst you recover from 2 broken legs :wink:

Brav

By Needle201 Wed Jan 14, 2004 6:08 am
well, theres a slight difference of breaking your a-s on the bike, and simply taking some time to understand what happens on the MPC 4000...
anyway, i understand what you want to say...your comparison is a little bit extreme though..;)
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By BRAVO Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:43 am
Needle201 wrote:well, theres a slight difference of breaking your a-s on the bike, and simply taking some time to understand what happens on the MPC 4000...
anyway, i understand what you want to say...your comparison is a little bit extreme though..;)


Hmmm, You Sure?



I'm having this problem of not knowing so much about basic drum patterns, time measurements, bpm, etc.,


That sounds pretty extreme too
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By ieism Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:01 pm
I had the same thing when i started out. I could bang out a beat, but i wasn't sure what i was doing. Go to your local library, they have many books on music theory. If your into hiphop, get a book called "give the drummer some". It 's a book about the history of James Brown's drummers. it comes with an audio cd with all the famous grooves, and they're written down in notes too so you can see what's going on.
In fact this is not just a fun book for beginners, it's a great read for anyone.
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By butcher Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:17 pm
i went out and bought a 1200 dollar machine before i touched anything and it def. woulda been a good i dea to try something smaller first. but, im gettin the hang of it and now, after a little frustration, im happy i went all out for my first machine. this way i don't have to keep buying and selling shit.

its ur ear tho also. depending on the music you like, try to recreate the drums that some of your favorite artists have in their songs. this is what i did and it was a big help. once u get an ear for what sounds good and flows then start trying ur own ish.