Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By gordongecko23 Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:46 pm
i know there is a post on here about rza using the sansamp psa-1 rack to dirty or grimey up his beats. basically the sansamp just models amps.
couldn't you do that with like a pod as well? just curious as to what everyone thinks about that. appreciate the input.
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By beets Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:00 am
Well, theres different things that one can do to dirty or grimey up a beat like converting the sample to a 12 or 8 bit or sampling off a old crusty record. As far as using a pod (im assuming that you meant an i-pod) I personally dont know anyone that has one so Ive never tried it, but Im not doubting it. Peace

By elmacaco Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:01 am
Line 6 Pod I bet.

Sure. Try it.

By UNSYSTEMATIC Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:02 am
your talking about a pod line 6? you can add distortion, but don't over do it.
if you sample straight from vinyl, sample at 45 rpm's and then down tune until you get the original melody of the riff or song. The secret is down sampling. P.M. me if you have more question and I'll explain it further.

By Madness Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:12 am
Yeah do it... the line 6 pods are wicked very high quality and will make your samples sing in a variety of ways!!!

Everyone in here raves about downsampling to 12bit etc., and personally I don't find it all that flash...I only do it so save on memory!!!

I use the Antares Tube plugin to add a subtle amount of Over Drive to my samples and makes them really gritty... the distortion you get is really smooth... I will even do it on Vinyl sampled stuff too just to add some extra tube warmth..... I am currently looking at getting a Boss BD-2 (blues driver over drive) with a keeley mod... its an awesome overdrive modified pedal that I will be using as a dedicated send effect on my mixer to send some signal from my mixer throught then back to the desk!!!

By gordongecko23 Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:07 am
yeah i was talking about the line 6 pod. sorry i didn't make that clear.
good ideas all around. thanks everybody.

By fade502 Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:42 am
One of the best ways to get that grimey feeling is to overdrive your samples with a tube pre-amp or a good solid state mixer with alot of headroom (Soundcraft is good, mackie/behringer crack under pressure). You want to overdrive the channel, but if you are recording on a computer you have to keep the overall output level below the clipping indicator (ie keep the master down even though the channel is overdriven). Something else to do is take an old break album that you scratch the hell out of... it should have some real grimey shit in the last lock groove of the record. Sample it for about 2.x-3.x bars. Create a looped track of that grimey crackly sound... because you sampled fractional number of bars, the overlap of the loop will always land somewhere randomly on the track like ona a real vinyl record (people will not realize that it is a loop)

good filtering can add grime too... try a good notch filter to create some wicked sounding stuff.

By UNSYSTEMATIC Sun Jan 25, 2004 12:56 pm
When I wrote "downsampling", I meant sampling at 45 RPM's from a record and then tuning the sample down to the original key. It was mentioned in another topic a while back. Someone mentioned that the characteristics of the sound waves are changed a bit. I usually downsample on my ASr-X Pro and keep resampling it going through the motions of tuning it up, sampling, tune it down to the original key, sampling, and so forth another one or two times. If my vinyl is pretty clean, I use my sampled (static air) from vinyl and throw it in with the sample to make it sound a little dirtier. Some times, I might add a subtle distortion. Sounds repetitive, but it gets easier after you know the process.
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By Swissmaster Cheese Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:59 pm
I just sample everything thru my old tascam portastudio and then pla back into the MPC via an old cheap cassette tape.....