Why would anyone choose the Akai OS over JJ?

**valentin** wrote:

why do that? i mean why learn it front and back and then get JJ OS and re-learn other things.

take it all in one big gulp man.


you should try the free version of JJ OS and then go back to akai and see what the difference is.

im just looking for the best approach. but i've taken your advice and installed the free jjos to feel it out and so far what i've learned for the akai seems to apply.

i've been using the new akai os, but im planning to make the shift eventually to jj2xl. crossfade loop, the arpreggiator and adsr are just too much to pass up. getting ready to start re-learning everything again tho.




in defense of the (new) akai os....
i think the new os definitely improved on the old one and it's not as bad as people say it is. it's already got the qlink for easy chopping and a bunch of other significant improvements as well. maybe not the best workflow around but if the beats are still dope there's no need to fix em

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ayon wrote:

in defense of the (new) akai os....
i think the new os definitely improved on the old one and it's not as bad as people say it is. it's already got the qlink for easy chopping and a bunch of other significant improvements as well. maybe not the best workflow around but if the beats are still dope there's no need to fix em

true. c'mon guys...

remember when the new akai os was released

we were all wetting ourselves.

The JJ os isn't going to make your beats better for you, but it will enhance the beat making process. Nuff said really.

Coz wrote:The JJ os isn't going to make your beats better for you, but it will enhance the beat making process. Nuff said really.

Very true. I just wonder why people would spend so much for a quality product and not spend just that little bit extra to make their 1000 up to par with the 2500. II really just want to hear from the people that decided to stay with the Akai OS. In fact, I'd also like to hear from the people who decided to get the 2500. It just seems like a waste of money now...

I bought a fully upgraded 2500 (128 meg ram, disc drive and 80 gig hard drive) in mint condition for the same price as a new 1000. No regrets at all, especially considering the pad problems of the 1k, plus the added bonus of the flip up screen on the 2500 makes it well worth the extra cost.

just the extra midi outs makes the 2500 a way better machine than the 1k. put that with a full sized pad set. and the 1k starts to become somewhat of a joke. and anybody thats used a full sized mpc and gone to the 1k knows what im talking about. the 1k holds its own. but to me there is no comp to the 2500.

LunaticBastard wrote:just the extra midi outs makes the 2500 a way better machine than the 1k. put that with a full sized pad set. and the 1k starts to become somewhat of a joke. and anybody thats used a full sized mpc and gone to the 1k knows what im talking about. the 1k holds its own. but to me there is no comp to the 2500.

depends on your needs i guess. i had the mpc60II, the 3000, then the 2000, the 2000XL, finally got this lil ole 1K a couple years back.almost immediately sold off my 2KXL,never even bothered to back up my old 2k programs offa the zips...i made standard mpc fare till jjos , then i noticed my beats came out quicker, and so more closely represented what i had in mind when i started to pound out the beat..

main reason i prefer a 1k to the 2k5 :

1>the 1k is like a phone book. 3.5 kilos and fits in my dj bag nicely.
2>dont really need all those q-links since only one at a time is really useful...cant use 2 note on controls at once)
3>don't really need the full size pads since i got enough motor control to hit the smaller padz..
4>it costs less to replace when someone pours a drink on it while i'm performing..
5>it's just so convienent and small and versatile without being completely crippled like the 500....

oh gosh forgot the original posters question...:
i think the people who use akai os are ; either them who don't know about jjos, or those who don't want to bother learning a new os..

I installed JJOS2XL the first time I switched on my 2k5, before even transferring some of my samples to the CF card that came with it. Well that's not quite true. I had one quick play about with the lame beat and samples that were on it from the guy I bought it off secondhand while waiting for my password.

Not sure the 2k5 was quite the right choice, only really because of size and weight rather than anything else, but these were my reasons behind going that way in the end.

1. Extra output for better live mixing (although not needed just yet with what I'm doing but I do plan on expanding with time.)
2. Extra QLinks. (As I use it with an external synth it's nice to have 4 controls which I can assign and change to different parts/tracks all from the one unit and easier than stepping through parts on the Virus.)
3. Pads on the original 1k being reportedly so poor (probably the biggest decider in the end.)
4. One came up at a price under the limits I had set for each on ebay sooneri (I had bid on both 1k and 2k5 before actually winning this one. My 1k limit was very tight though due to issues above but would of taken a bargain.)

It will do me nicely but I can't deny that I do wish it was just a little smaller and lighter at times.

it also depends on how much you use the mpc. In my case, i had my 1000 ever since akai first released it. And I am still using the latest Akai OS. I don't use the mp for effects. i do use it for chopping and stretching samples and of course the sequencer but once i get the beat sequenced, i track it right into pro tools where i add my effects and such. so (for the moment) using the JJ OS (for me) is bit overkill.

I do agree, however, the JJ OS has a lot of features and functions over the akai OS and if i used the mp as my dedicated only machine then I would probably already have the JJ.

so it does go by how you use the mpc to determine which OS you use.

jackymurda wrote:i think the people who use akai os are ; either them who don't know about jjos, or those who don't want to bother learning a new os..

i don't think this is the case. I knew about the JJ since it first came out and I am more than apt at learning a new os.

honestly, it's really about personal preference. If you know about it and learn a new os, it's up to you to switch. just because a person doesn't switch doesn't make them this or that.

it's the same thing giong back to the mpc 60II. alot of ppl who has the 60II still use the akai os and alot of ppl use the 3000 upgrade os for the 60II. personal preference.

jackymurda wrote:i think the people who use akai os are ; either them who don't know about jjos, or those who don't want to bother learning a new os..

There's lots of people out there who don't know about it. Case in point - I have a friend who is a fanatical 2500 user and has been since they dropped, but he didn't know about it. Plus, there's people out there who wouldn't want to compromise older projects by switching up, which is understandable. Even just having to reformat hard discs and cards can be a pain... I know, I just had to do it! It's worth it though.

Having read these forums for a while before geting my 2500, I thought it was going to be a lot bigger than it actually is. In reality it's quite a sleek little number compared to the 2kxl. Years of DJing has given me back problems and hunching over a screen is not an option for me, so the flip screen is a must, and more than worth the extra cash

So yeah, for anyone just starting out with a 1k or 25 I would definitely say switch up to JJ asap. So far to me it just seems more rounded and fluid which is important however you make your beats.

I'm deffinately not knocking the 2500. I love the bigger pads and tilt screen and all, it just seems like a lot more money for what you get. At the same time though, I really love the look and feel of the 2000xl. If I could get that with JJ, I'd be willing to spend a little extra. No way I could do without alternate looping after having it though. Even the earliest samplers had this. Hell the s612 had it I think... I just wonder why all of the companies dropped this feature. Oh well, I guess I'm trailing off.

I rocked the 2kxl for 10 years and to me the 2500 is a more than worthy successor. It has identical pads, a bigger and better screen, more controls and a 3rd party os that kills anything Akai have done. I got mine second hand (only 4 months old) with full ram, 80 gig hard drive and disc drive for the cost of a new 1k. Would I go back to the xl...?? Not a chance!!

I just bought my MPC 1000, and i must say its beautiful. I have been searching on what to do OS wise, and you guys/ladies(?) are convincing me of making that JJ OS move. I also have a mpc 2000xl but bought this 1K for a change. I got an awesome deal of only 400 bucks, its just the memory is not maxed out, which is not a big expense.

Reading these forums and your guys opinion, I think i will update the OS tonite...
am i correct in what I read, that I will have to delete my whole memory card?

I have a 2500 for the home lab. Nice comfortable with the flipscreen, better pads, better feel of buttons. I really can work on that for at least 24hours straight.
1k for on the go. Not perfect, but all I need when I need to be mobile.

Akai OS is nice to learn the machine. Easy straight forward to operate. Free JJ is even better, as easy to learn and start with as a noob.

When I bought the 2500 a month ago I sticked with the akai os just to play with.
After 24hours I was begging for JJ
I now have the free version on that one. Not a lot of new features, but the global program edit and the advanced chopping ans sample edit features are things I can not live without