UPGRADING FROM AN MPC2000XL TO AN MPC3000LE!!!

I still dont get why 3k's sell for more then 2k an other mpc's.

kingrome_1 wrote:I still dont get why 3k's sell for more then 2k an other mpc's.

2k's were a downgrade and wasn't there more 2k's made ?
It does more than a 60 so probably should be more expensive.
Do you really need to ask about the modern ones(1k,500,etc.) ?

kingrome_1 wrote:I still dont get why 3k's sell for more then 2k an other mpc's.

Sample quality my friend. Same reason the sp 1200 still rake in some dough. The thing has been left out in this discussion is the Mpc 3000 is based of the 3000 series samplers, 2000 xl is still a 1000 series sampler. Functionally the Xl and Classic 2000 win hands down in my opinion. But the 3000 slays when it comes to sound quality and sample playback. Sample a 808 kick into an xl, then sample the same kick into the 3000 and the difference will be clearly understandable. I agree with the comments above sequence on the xl and get a s3000 midi'd up to it...

Acid Mitch wrote:

kingrome_1 wrote:I still dont get why 3k's sell for more then 2k an other mpc's.

2k's were a downgrade and wasn't there more 2k's made ?
It does more than a 60 so probably should be more expensive.
Do you really need to ask about the modern ones(1k,500,etc.) ?

i dont think the 2ks are a downgrade...and its pretty clear it does more then a 60 that why i got a 2kxl.

kingrome_1 wrote:

Acid Mitch wrote:

kingrome_1 wrote:I still dont get why 3k's sell for more then 2k an other mpc's.

2k's were a downgrade and wasn't there more 2k's made ?
It does more than a 60 so probably should be more expensive.
Do you really need to ask about the modern ones(1k,500,etc.) ?

i dont think the 2ks are a downgrade...and its pretty clear it does more then a 60 that why i got a 2kxl.

I suppose it depends how you look on it. The hardware got cheaper, but they added more features mostly in software.
This came at the expense of usability IMHO.
The 60 does what I need and I didn't want the extra features clogging up the menus
I totally see your point if you like using the filters and stuff or need the memory.(hey, isn't 640k enough for anyone )

the 3000 is an older machine then the 2000xl, plus the price was double when it was brand new. older = more rare.. however the 3000 was a true upgrade to the 60. I dont think the 60 has any features besides 12bit that the 3000 doesn't have. I dont even consider 12 to be a feature.

plus the 60 cam standard no scsi no nothing but it does beat the 2k in which it has smpte an the 8outs which is a big spend when u add that on to ur 2k.

kingrome_1 wrote:plus the 60 cam standard no scsi no nothing but it does beat the 2k in which it has smpte an the 8outs which is a big spend when u add that on to ur 2k.

tell me about it... I am still trying to keep my eye peeled for an 8-outs board.

the money i would of spent on upgrading my 60 i could of bought my 2kxl...my 60 needed a new backlight,new os,ram,scsi...thats about 400 dollars.

kingrome_1 wrote:the money i would of spent on upgrading my 60 i could of bought my 2kxl...my 60 needed a new backlight,new os,ram,scsi...thats about 400 dollars.

I know how you feel.Got my 60 last year for a reasonable price but I still need SCSI, memory ,backlight and new tact switchs.
I've been trying to do it all so I end up spending less than I would on a current model but it's getting hard now all the parts are dissapearing.

Do you prefer the 2k ?
Having 4 MIDI outputs was really important for me, so I never considered the 2K.

well i think its all persoanl opion i bought it cause of sampling an more space for sounds...i miss having four midi outs and ins but i dont really need them all now.but i think its a nice upgrade becuase it felt like the 60 wasnt a challege anymore.it can only do so much.

but i do miss the +/- on the 60 that the 2kxl lacks

HOw come you didn't get a 1K ?
MOst people I know that want the extra sampling time and filters and stuff aren't bothering with the older machines and getting the 1k.
I think the 2k's look better built.

kingrome_1 wrote:but i do miss the +/- on the 60 that the 2kxl lacks

It sucks how companies always take away somethhing you want when they give you upgrades.
Seems like all the MPC's have something good about them the others don't have.
The Roland TR drum machines are like that also.

I would rather have a 500 than any MPC before the 2000XL -- and I might rather have a 500 over that even.

If I want 12-bit grit I'll get a 12-bit sampler and add it on later.