OS 2XL Pattern mode becoming a waste of space?

Lampdog wrote:Maybe peeps want too much.



Maybe he had to cut out features to incorporate other features cause he ran outta room in the os.

He said that before didn't he?!?!

cut out the splash screen?

eimer wrote:I bought a mpc-1000 a month ago and instantly slammed JJOS 2XL on it. I got curious about the hype about OS 2 and tried it. Now i have abandoned 2XL because os the X0X'like funcion the os 2 classic got. I love pattern mode with chop and pitch and stuff. LOVE it!!

Pattern mode is fun. It's another reason that I stay with OS2.

pull-over wrote:

Lampdog wrote:Maybe peeps want too much.



Maybe he had to cut out features to incorporate other features cause he ran outta room in the os.

He said that before didn't he?!?!

cut out the splash screen?

Splash screen doesnt take up much space at all.

Lamp, you're close... It's the processor that's limiting the OS. There's more code space made in the internal flash rom since OS2 was developed. The CPU can't handle too many instructions without crashing or lagging.

but what can we cut off?to get a midi & tune pattern mode

Lampdog wrote:Maybe peeps want too much.



Maybe he had to cut out features to incorporate other features cause he ran outta room in the os.

He said that before didn't he?!?!

Why isn't the pong game cut out? Who is using it anyway?

Coz wrote:Apparently the previous os file size limit was around 1meg but jj has found a way of increasing this to 5. I agree though, people do probably want too much and features are getting piled on top of other features, and it's not always obvious to the casual user how all these things work.

Man, I understand what everyone is saying. But, at the end of the day I dont care what he had to cut. Just as long as Im not stuck with Akai's os as an only option (lol)!!! I know somebody feels me!!!!

I know what you're saying mate! Anyone whe defends the Akai os hasn't got a **** clue!!!

If I pushed my 2kxl hard it would crash without any hesitation, but I now have the luxury of being able to track out, coupled with a fantastic os to go along with it. Let's not get too complacent eh...

A noob's point of view here.
I only managed to get the hang of pattern mode on JJOS2XL this weekend and I loved the way it worked, I was just selecting the pad and creating patterns visually, like I did on Fruityloops but using my hands instead of the mouse, for me it worked like a breeze for drums, my only complain is that it is not ideal for non-drum patterns.
AND it did crash on my a few times!

The way I got there was mode+pad 15; Shift>view. (just to be sure we're talking about the same feature)

One extra feature I would love (apart from more effects, like a proper distortion), is to be able to edit the pitch for each step, so I could program synth-lines faster instead of programming note by note.

boldman75 wrote:

Coz wrote:Apparently the previous os file size limit was around 1meg but jj has found a way of increasing this to 5. I agree though, people do probably want too much and features are getting piled on top of other features, and it's not always obvious to the casual user how all these things work.

Man, I understand what everyone is saying. But, at the end of the day I dont care what he had to cut. Just as long as Im not stuck with Akai's os as an only option (lol)!!! I know somebody feels me!!!!

imma mos def witcha on this.....

emailed JJ - he said

'Since OS2XL differs in OS2 and specification, as for the addition of "TUNE" and "CHOP", a program becomes complicated.
Therefore, since a bug occurs, there are not "TUNE" and "CHOP" in OS2XL.'

Shame - there's lots of nice things in OS2XL - but for me they aren't worth the trade off for pattern...
so - will stick with OS2.

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but tune was really fun and usefull....i can live without the chop function...

mmmh and ad instead a midi out...

e-smile-z wrote:but tune was really fun and usefull....i can live without the chop function...

mmmh and ad instead a midi out...

yeah agreed - tune was useful ... chop not so important as you can use it manually.
he didn't mention filter though... that was useful too.

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and ths slider are recorded and work better in os2 !

in the end, everything for everybody, diffrent priorities.

Pattern Mode would be more useful if you could use the pattern you create in Areggiator Mode.
Right now there is not very much going on in arpegiator, but if you could use your own pattern, that would be awesome.

Combine 2 half-finished Features (no one uses right now) to get one new useful one

anyone got the complete OS2 updates? or know where i can D/L them? as i'd like to look back at when pattern was first introduced.

cheers

f