Parallel compression

Funk E-technician wrote:Come on people. Don't you have your mpc in front of you? Its all there in the first post.

obviously it wasn't. i've been doing advanced stuff with the mpc & helping out people on these forums and i didn't get what you were talking about either. your original description was minimal to say the least. you left out all mention of panning & only using the left channel of the stereo outs.

Sooty_G wrote:your original description was minimal to say the least. you left out all mention of panning & only using the left channel of the stereo outs.

It described exactly how to use the compressor as a send effect.

still looking forward to the vid by eimer, whenever you have time to do it.

Funk E-technician wrote:Come on people. Don't you have your mpc in front of you? Its all there in the first post. Just use the known panning method for ducking, if thats what you want.

Here you go:

for instance

Drums:

level: 100, pan: R50, out: ST, fx: fx1, send: 50 (e.g.)

Bass:

level: 50 (e.g.), pan: L50, out: ST, fx: fx2

Only use the left out of the stereo pair.

The panning trick is new, and brilliant too! With that you can make almost true sidechaining!

Funk E-technician wrote:
Come on people. Don't you have your mpc in front of you? Its all there in the first post.


obviously it wasn't. i've been doing advanced stuff with the mpc & helping out people on these forums and i didn't get what you were talking about either. your original description was minimal to say the least. you left out all mention of panning & only using the left channel of the stereo outs.


Exactly ....

I'd rather not have my bass or drums come out mono tho.....The sacrifice isnt worth it to me.....

Thanks for the tip tho...?

pz

PzuvMynd wrote:
Exactly ....

I'd rather not have my bass or drums come out mono tho.....The sacrifice isnt worth it to me.....

Thanks for the tip tho...?

pz

No need for doing it in MONO.

Parallel compression can be done i stereo, but sidechain compression is in mono. I don't have much time on my hands so the video can be delayed a bit, sorry.

E ....Oh ...Word....Thanks fam...Even to do a sidechain...And lose the stereo isnt worth it.....Plus reeallly..Almost any Compressor you use in a daw...Will Beat the brakes of the MPC FX.....I use the MPC"S fx only temp while I'm makin the beat...Then I track it raw and put some real FX on it.....

And Yea. E..Please Make some time for that vid....


Pz

Funk E-technician wrote:Come on people. Don't you have your mpc in front of you? Its all there in the first post. Just use the known panning method for ducking, if thats what you want.

Here you go:

for instance

Drums:

level: 100, pan: R50, out: ST, fx: fx1, send: 50 (e.g.)

Bass:

level: 50 (e.g.), pan: L50, out: ST, fx: fx2

Only use the left out of the stereo pair.

Please explain a bit further: how using only one out will result in ducking? You're surely right but this technique sounds new to me, and I'd like to give it a try at home...

thx for the tip! the parallel compression idea is crystal clear! no need for a video

Good to hear. Too bad that the compressor in the MPC's suck big time! But if it is all you got, it's all you got.

im a dummu when it comes to settings, so can someone please explain how to set the sidechain compression? im running the free jjos on my 1000

http://www.youtube.com/user/nokkenmarley

I don't know how that os version works, sorry.

Back from the grave!!!

I resurrect this old one, because I recently played a bit around it in JJOS2XL:

Bass on A01, mono, 50 VOL, individual OUT 1
KICK on A02, mono, 90 VOL, individual OUT 2

Run a couple of cables from Individual outs 1/2 to Stereo Ins.

Input thru: L+R routed to compressor.

Playing with the PADs volume and compressor settings, you can achieve extremely pleasant pumping.

THERE IS A CAVEAT/ISSUE. It is for me linked to the CPU strain on the 2.5K. It gets that bad that you can actually hear te MPC struggling to keep the tempo. As soon as you attempt to go on TRACK MUTE/SEQ MUTE it's lost.

Would you please have a try and report if it's the same for you, and even better, if you can figure out how to use the technique and STILL be able to mute tracks? I can workaround not being able to change SEQ, but I edit heavy relying on trackmutes :/

got my RNC, I'm all set for compressors.

cool tip though.

I do not agree with a lot here. Parallel compression means that two signals are summed, one is uncompressed, the other compressed. This is nothing to do with ducking, or sidechaining. MPC1000 does not have side chain in the compressor, so there is no option for sidechain techniques like ducking, de-essing ect. To use one side of a stereo pair can be ok, depending where it goes after, say to desk with panning is ok, but to do this in a stereo field it is not a good idea, IMHO. ie it is not stereo. So all you need to do is actually route your signal so as that it goes through compressor and also does not go through compressor at same time, then summed to stereo pair. That is what you should think for parallel compression through MPC FX.
So I would say there are a few ways. One obvious one is to just copy track. So with two copies you can have one through FX, and one not through FX, then summed to out. Phasing is issue of course. yeah you can send mono to a stereo pair out as 2 monos and feed it back into the inputs in L+R mode that gives you option to have FX on or off. But it is mono only this method. sums to stereo though. I tried it and its ok, but it stops me using my set hardware FX sends set up so do not do it. This is JJOSXL like. I still do not see point of using two FX slots. when it can be done with one. I use a PCL3200 hardware compressor and it has side chain inputs, but you do not need them for parallel compression. Sidechain is used for differential compression, ducking, de-essing. this thread is from the dead isnt it?