any regrets????

Sovereign wrote:It's not so much that it's not true it's that he hasn't even owned one so he's just talking sh*t.

Originally there were lots of people on here talking about 5ks who didn't own them.
They eventually stopped when they realized that real 5k owners could tell they didn't own one.
Unfortunately this is also the reason why the people from Akai gave up and moved on, thus killing our voice to Akai.

while maybe you have a point... I dont think that is why akai gave up....

the thing is, they received so many returns of the 5k.... they had to start selling them from the website personally. that didn't happen because of problems reported falsely by people who dont even own the machine.... returns happen when there is a fault with it... so they made v2.

now, maybe they improved the OS to make it somewhat usuable... but look at the problems it had before they came out with v2... how did that leave the factory? That is why "wakai" gets the W in front of it...

you cant honestly say that numark is a good company who makes nothing but quality products...


worst part is, akai isn't the only company that does this type of shit these days... the quality of everything has gone down.

Ok, i see your point.

Still not sure how it would benefit them to pretend to own a 5000 but im not gonna spend time trying to work it out.

The guys at the Akai support seem pretty helpful if you email them although i see the benefits of having them in a furum such as this. That said, reading some of the posts on here i think there still are Akai staff here.

Tell you what, since becoming an mpc user last year ive this 5000 comunity to be a right mixed bunch of people.

Tech question for you: i dont suppose you can advise on how i create new folders to save samples to do you? I can create a folder but cant then load it up to use once i start recording my samples. Im stuck saving them into either existing programs such as drum or other instrument folders or i can use the one blank program thats available, Program 1. Cant seem to find the answer to, probebly rather simple thing.

Cheers

Akai had units to sell because they didn't understand what most vendors do.
You don't allow returns from merchants on the items that come back in due to their liberal return policy.
What the stores were doing was returning units to prevent having to sell them at a reduced cost.
If you notice most stores have made changes in their return policy and I know the GC here will lie and sell a returned item as new so they don't lose money on it.
Most manufactures won't take a return unless it's faulty and the dealers can't sell it as new if it goes out the door, then comes back.
The 5k was a high dollar item so they were sending them back as faulty to keep from lower their profit margin.

Akai also had to deal with people going out their way to say negative things that weren't true.
The incredible burning display was one.
In his initial post he stated that he had a power surge in his apartment that was so bad that it melted the ceiling light fixture.
He then turned it into the 5k having bad displays.
He then tried to fix it himself and when that burned up he became more aggressive at making his bad repair seem like a 5k problem.

Then there the person who tried to claim they made a display catch on fire at the dealer, yeah right.

Also we can't forget the legendary Juste Blaze rant where he made all this noise and when people tried to point out he was using the old OS he replied he didn't have time to try the new OS.
Funny you had time to rant all over the internet about problems that the new OS had already addressed.

There were the classic 4k guys who wouldn't stop attacking the 5k trying to prove the 4k was better as if that had some merit.

As I said before there were lots of people posting making noise about the 5k who you could tell didn't own one.


Eventually the guys from Akai got tired and moved on.

I watched that burning display video on youtube, i was having all my problems at the time so i did believe it- heck of a little stunt to put off if he was faking it. Dont know much about that Blaze fella other than i heard about him after numerous '5000' googles. I can understand that if he had experienced loads of shitty problems, crashes, bugs etc then he may have had a point that surely it should be in the product plan to thoroughly test it before putting it on the market. But at the same time if thats the nature of these types of units, and if manufacters do constantly update the OS then he maybe should have withdrawn what he's now left on the internet.
I've recently started learning Reason 5 and Record 1.5 on the mac - cant help forever expanding my set up. All the stuff out there excites me too much, just cant help myself.
The 5000 has been one of the most interesting pieces of gear iv ever got with regards to talking points- pros and cons arguments. I nearly invested in an mpc about 5 years ago but didnt in the end until the 5000- i wonder whats planned next, that'll be an interesting one to watch.

i have none and dont listen to the negative comments there rubbish but if you did have problems you can just take it back to the shop or akai for repair/exchange, i would be weary of buying a second hand one, although an ex demo from a respected dealer is a good option in my opinion

It does make me wonder though why the brand new machine i got originally (that broke pretty quick) had random samples saved all over the place on the hardrive. Neither Akai or the shop where i bought it from aknowledged my curiousity on that one. I wondered if it was a repaired one or ex-demo which is more that a bit wrong if thats what i was sold. Or maybe it was just tested and left that way in that case thats fine. Who knows.

daveyP wrote:It does make me wonder though why the brand new machine i got originally (that broke pretty quick) had random samples saved all over the place on the hardrive. Neither Akai or the shop where i bought it from aknowledged my curiousity on that one. I wondered if it was a repaired one or ex-demo which is more that a bit wrong if thats what i was sold. Or maybe it was just tested and left that way in that case thats fine. Who knows.

that is probably due to the thing sovereign was just talking about...

that thing about the guitar center returns does not surprise me what so ever... many stores **** around when it comes to returns... gamestop is a prime example though unrelated.


on a side note... I thought the burning display was too funny... and what I found even funnier was how people with pristine displays got so angry at the mention of the burning ones lmao.. it's an electronic part, sh!t happens. antec is one of the best and highest quality power supply companies yet I have seen those burn up just like that display.

Thanks to JB whe have OS2....

daveyP wrote:So whats the final decision?

What DAW do you use?

Just got an opportunity to buy a used 5K for a reasonable price for me at least. CD/DVD, large HD, and Ram maxed out. I think I'm going to jump on this one. Will let you all know how it turns out.

I currently use Yamaha RS7000... I know, archaic, still a cool machine though.

good luck with that, hope it does work out for you.

not sure what your yamaha is but i think its good to stick with some old stuff that you know well, i think it can add to your sound or at least shape the way you produce stuff

So far none. Although I have had it about two hours, I have none. I bought an MPC1000 and an MPC500 for more portable use. Then two days later stumbled across a 5k for a grand. Couldn't pass it up. I was using MAschine, Komplete 6, Ableton Live, etc... but I grew up around hardware and not software so I didn't get much done. With the MPC I have good work flow and it keeps me into it without the frustration. Looking at the comparison chart sold me on the 5k.

I take it youre talking dollers not pounds? The place wherebi. Out my 5k is now selling them for £1100, im sure mine was alot more.

Know what you mean about hardware v software. I was put off software years back by trying to figure out how to use a free version of cubase. That on top of never knowing what the fook is going on with PC specs and soundcards was just a no no for me; much easier to buy something self contained that you can foward through how to use. There where too many factors with regards to PCs for me back then.
I just got to like the visual of software after using ipad apps sequencing software. The fact i can copy and paste so easily and visually see the pats, split the parts then add to them. Thats what made me get Reason and Record recently.
Im looking forward to making stuff on that where i can leave it a while then come back to it later and easily pick up where i left off as i'll be able to see the sections created up to that point. With the mpc i think i'll have to complete tracks faster as i keep going back to it, loading up all my samples, drum sounds, synth samples etc and kind of feel like ive lost the flow; and then things begin to take a different root. Thats just me, and maybe ive not used it enough yet but i do defo lime the visual aspect of using software.
Hardware feels more like a real physical instrument though so i like that. I hope the different set ups mean i'll create different sounds, not getting stale or bored of any processes.
There's so many possibilities with music recording its great.

Man i Love My 5000. Being a Maschine owner and a previous MV-8800 owner, I'd have to say that I like my 5000 More then i like the MV simply because of the speed and it's user friendliness. The Mv was great but i couldn't really do what i wanted to do especially with the lack of the discontinued outs. The Maschine is for when im in the house and dealing with the computer for on the fly Ideals. The Maschine is great, so is the 5000 and the MV, The MV advantages is the VGA out..But thats just my opinion..the 5000 can do what the mv can +1. I have no regrets on purchasing this machine. Plus i've had no problems with mine.


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thats good to hear. that mashine thing looks good, saw a youtube vid of sum guy playing it live. Then again i think watching anyone doing sumthing good with any bit of equipment makes it look good and inspires; just like a skillful footballer doing tricks with a football (or soccer ball if most people are american here, i dont know?!).

there's too much quality stuff out there i want it all. id get one of those eginharps and that reactable if i could afford them. crazy stuff.

No regrets here. Got mine new in Jan 2011 with OS2 and so far so good.