MPC 2500 SE FO / MPC 5000 FO

hi there

this is my first post, and im here to become part of the mpc-community.

im now about ten years into diggin some music and ive got a huge cd collection as well as i have a big records collection at my crib. now i wanna get productive with it and try my first steps with some hip hop beats and electronic stuff (low-fi, downbeat, dubstep etc..). my first thought was of course the mpc, as my favourite beatmakers use one in their lab. i want something to bang around and i prever hardware as well.

i dont really have a clue of the mpc so far, i know what it is and i know what you can do with but cant tell the specifics.
what i do have at home is: a good imac, loudspeakers, reference-headphones, turntables (4000 MK), CD-Player, Stereo-Amplifier, a midi-interface and im really ready to get into an mpc and study...

my idea is, to know the mpc really good, and then when i be at a good level, get me some other hardware (keyboard, synth, etc...) and software for it.

now my question is: wich mpc should i get? im able to get the 2500 SE (Full Option) or the 5000 (Full Option) at a very cheap price here in switzerland.

wich one should i choose (to my musical references)?
wich one is easier to handle at first?
what are the ons and pros for the ones?
and what else do i have to take care of it when it comes down to the mpc...?

thanks for your input and help for my first steps.

guess i have to apologize for my bad english

greetings from zurich

get the 2500, add the JJ OS and dont look back, of the 2 it is the proven updated performer

thanks alot

so you would suggest to start right away with the JJOS instead of the Akai OS?
i also heard that the OS 2.0 for the 5000 must be awesome. do you think theres a big improvement with the 5000 over the 2500?

akai released mpc5000 knowing about 50 something bugs with OS right off the bat...what is this tell you. do you really want to rely on their mercy ?...people cry for months to get update to make the machine somewhat stable....even now users experience random problems with it....get 1000 or 2500 learn it then once you know how to use it you can decide for yourself if 5000 is worth upgrading to...after all it's only few hundred extra second hand

Im on the 5k trip.More sound (louder) more controllers much better resolution sequencer much better screen.Synthesizer is really good imo.ADAT.Phono ins.Great fx and filters and to my ears just sounds better.2500 has the jj option.Thats cool.And smaller footprint.Thats cool.BUT-ive heard rumblings of a new OS.Just be aware i dont have much experience with the 2500 but i was testing them side by side in the shop only.The 5k just kind of burnt it.Oh,and did i say i loved the synth with all those controllers to edit with.Either way you gonna make some music......

is the 5k still sick like that? i know there was plenty of producers wo didnt give it a shot at the first time, but right now people says, that there aint no more heavy bugs with the new OS.

@ dryad-66, what exactly sounds better on the 5k?

i think grabbing the machine you happen to find once you've made the decision may be the way to look at it... they both make music, and if you plan on getting a synth down the road they both work with that too...

right now, try and find a good price on one of the two machines you are interested in... then later grab a midi controller keyboard, an audio interface with at least 8 inputs (might as well skip right past the 2 input ones since you can resample the mpc into itself and transfer over usb.. which is basically like a 2 input interface anyways) and eventually get some studio monitors as an additional reference point.

sinik wrote:@ dryad-66, what exactly sounds better on the 5k?

I'd like to know as well, both are 16bit 44.1khz

konc3pt wrote:

sinik wrote:@ dryad-66, what exactly sounds better on the 5k?

I'd like to know as well, both are 16bit 44.1khz

isn't the 3k as well?

mr_debauch wrote:

konc3pt wrote:

sinik wrote:@ dryad-66, what exactly sounds better on the 5k?

I'd like to know as well, both are 16bit 44.1khz

isn't the 3k as well?

you're right but now you comparing ice cream to a turd

konc3pt wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:
I'd like to know as well, both are 16bit 44.1khz

isn't the 3k as well?

you're right but now you comparing ice cream to a turd [/quote]



it's one of those days

sinik wrote:is the 5k still sick like that? i know there was plenty of producers wo didnt give it a shot at the first time, but right now people says, that there aint no more heavy bugs with the new OS.

@ dryad-66, what exactly sounds better on the 5k?

What i mean is the fx engine/filters(please correct me if im wrong)is update and upgraded from the previous mpc s.And there is a hotter signal commin from the 5.....Just from using the 5k for a few months 2 years ago(ive got another one on order)it was well endowed as far a soundshaping.Tested them back to back i the shop and the 5 sounded better(on a few occasions.Now,i know these 2 are basically the same.But they were made with some years between them so possibly some differences.For the price the disrespected 5k goes for its a no brainer.Second hand in europe.........I didnt notice any real bugs.With os 2.0.Before it was a nightmare i believe.I used to run it side by side with my 4k(still got that right here)and like them for different reasons.The sequence in the 5 is sweet.Bassically you get a mpc whichever you go for.As for the 3k,never had one so........I bet its amazing.But the 5 aint no slouch.What i will say is that the 2000 is very dull sounding generally.Is not very dynamic like the 4,5 ect.Its got a great feel(2k) tho and i knocked out track after track on it.BUT-gotta move on.Guess it comes down to wether you want the jj os on the machine.

Hey-i love a debate about mpc s.Bring it on.........BUT i really have no fight with the 2500 especially with jj os.I dont like that green screen tho : ]

thanks

guess i will go with the 2500. glad i am from europe cause they only selling the SE, and i will get the Full Option for cheap.
maybe somedays i will pick up a bigger weapon, when its time for it. think there will be an 5000pro or a 6000 or somewhat...

i also start with the akai os and go thru the manual with it. is it a problem to go from akai os to the jj os?

Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.