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emptysea wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:Certainly if you mean SP's, 60/3000's, or analog synths, no, software is not quite ready to fully emulate that.

I don't know about that. Maschine's SP1200 and MPC60 vintage sampling modes actually do a very good job.

I use those modes, and they are nice, but they don't sound the same as what they are attempting to emulate.

@Cyrus. Those Vestax joints look dope, but I keep mentioning the new Korg nanoPAD, as it's the only ultra portable joint out there that has 16 pads.

Metatron72 wrote:

emptysea wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:Certainly if you mean SP's, 60/3000's, or analog synths, no, software is not quite ready to fully emulate that.

I don't know about that. Maschine's SP1200 and MPC60 vintage sampling modes actually do a very good job.

I use those modes, and they are nice, but they don't sound the same as what they are attempting to emulate.

That's your opinion and a vague description like "sound the same" will always be subjective unless we're talking scientific analysis. I'm just more inclined to give more weight to opinions by those who own those respective units along with Maschine and say it's very close after testing them side by side:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post650093
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post914597

emptysea wrote:That's your opinion and a vague description like "sound the same" will always be subjective unless we're talking scientific analysis. I'm just more inclined to give more weight to opinions by those who own those respective units along with Maschine and say it's very close after testing them side by side:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post650093
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post914597

I've used real SP's, and there's a reason they still trade for 2g's. Believe whatever you like (it is a subjective/ perception issue anyway).

I've seen your posts here before, and I'm just more inclined to wonder why evangelizing Maschine and painting it as the greatest thing ever, is your main calling in life.

Metatron72 wrote:

emptysea wrote:That's your opinion and a vague description like "sound the same" will always be subjective unless we're talking scientific analysis. I'm just more inclined to give more weight to opinions by those who own those respective units along with Maschine and say it's very close after testing them side by side:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post650093
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post914597

I've used real SP's, and there's a reason they still trade for 2g's.

How much they're sold for in the vintage market has nothing to do with whether software can emulate its sonic qualities.

emptysea wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:

emptysea wrote:That's your opinion and a vague description like "sound the same" will always be subjective unless we're talking scientific analysis. I'm just more inclined to give more weight to opinions by those who own those respective units along with Maschine and say it's very close after testing them side by side:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post650093
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post914597

I've used real SP's, and there's a reason they still trade for 2g's.

How much they're sold for in the vintage market has nothing to do with whether software can emulate its sonic qualities.

This a thread about iOS devices, this is my last OT response to this.

You've established your Maschine Fanboyism on these boards countless times. Clearly you comb these threads looking for any mention of Maschine, and then proceed to argue with even the most minor of observations, because that's what fanboys do. If you honestly believe that 2 afterthought algorithms that were added to Maschine as a bonus to old hardware fans, are equal to the real thing, fine, believe whatever makes you happy.

how many **** times.....

http://mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=143653

Metatron72 wrote:If you honestly believe that 2 afterthought algorithms that were added to Maschine as a bonus to old hardware fans, are equal to the real thing, fine, believe whatever makes you happy.

If you honestly believe that Maschine's vintage sampling modes are "afterthought algorithms" then fine, believe what makes you happy.

The vintage mode in Maschine is based on actual component modelling even down to details like the aliasing effect from the tuning of the sample and the different filters on the outputs of the SP 1200. Both emulations trace the exact signal flow through the actual machines including the filters and the A/D converters. It's not some cheap emulation effect that you just turn on/off. They're meant to be used just like how the original machines were used, like pitching down just as you do on the SP1200 to get that characteristic artifact.

If you want the most realistic emulation, you can set every sound in a group in Maschine to SP1200, polyphony to 1, envelope to One-Shot, and use a maximum of 5 seconds' worth of sample material.

emptysea wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:If you honestly believe that 2 afterthought algorithms that were added to Maschine as a bonus to old hardware fans, are equal to the real thing, fine, believe whatever makes you happy.

If you honestly believe that Maschine's vintage sampling modes are "afterthought algorithms" then fine, believe what makes you happy.

The vintage mode in Maschine is based on actual component modelling even down to details like the aliasing effect from the tuning of the sample and the different filters on the outputs of the SP 1200. Both emulations trace the exact signal flow through the actual machines including the filters and the A/D converters. It's not some cheap emulation effect that you just turn on/off. They're meant to be used just like how the original machines were used, like pitching down just as you do on the SP1200 to get that characteristic artifact.

If you want the most realistic emulation, you can set every sound in a group in Maschine to SP1200, polyphony to 1, envelope to One-Shot, and use a maximum of 5 seconds' worth of sample material.

I know how to use my Maschine. Please, will you just drop it. THIS IS AN iOS THREAD!

Behold... Native Instruments iMaschine



So happy to see Native Instruments entering the iOS market. And we finally have a mobile companion to Maschine. It's so ON!

emptysea wrote:Behold... Native Instruments iMaschine



So happy to see Native Instruments entering the iOS market. And we finally have a mobile companion to Maschine. It's so ON!

Now We finally sure you work for NI...funny thing is I thought the big selling point of the maschine was how well the controller integrates with teh software but I guess this isnt the case any longer or how you dont look gotta look at the screen

Well Emtysea, NI's surprise release put you back on topic.

I'll pick it up, I'm not one of those people that is bothered by apps costing $5-$20, that's still a low price to pay for software. I'm not particularly impressed with what's being offered though. 100MB of sounds I already own, having to use in app purchases to get more sounds I already own, and the mic being the only way to get my own stuff in there...pretty underwhelming really. I could see myself using the pattern upload, but without user sample uploading, this isn't much more impressive than the iDrum apps.

Hopefully NI expands this app beyond it's current limited state. I'm hopefully they will, and add on to this app's features regularly.

Upload of patterns to Maschine is all this really offers. They have to do some work on this app before it can come close to the functionality of BM2 and Nanostudio.

Metatron72 wrote:I'm not particularly impressed with what's being offered though. 100MB of sounds I already own, having to use in app purchases to get more sounds I already own, and the mic being the only way to get my own stuff in there...pretty underwhelming really. I could see myself using the pattern upload, but without user sample uploading, this isn't much more impressive than the iDrum apps.

iMaschine does import samples:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post924531

emptysea wrote:

Metatron72 wrote:I'm not particularly impressed with what's being offered though. 100MB of sounds I already own, having to use in app purchases to get more sounds I already own, and the mic being the only way to get my own stuff in there...pretty underwhelming really. I could see myself using the pattern upload, but without user sample uploading, this isn't much more impressive than the iDrum apps.

iMaschine does import samples:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... post924531

Pretty silly of NI to list this fact nowhere in the spec sheets released yesterday. But good news, thanks.

Metatron72 wrote:
I use those modes, and they are nice, but they don't sound the same as what they are attempting to emulate.

I got my first crack at these modes last night and I gotta say I like em alot! I cannot comment on how true they are to the originals but these modes along with a little bit reduction (which Maschine does very good as well) you can really get some authentic grime going on.

Metatron72 wrote:I'll pick it up, I'm not one of those people that is bothered by apps costing $5-$20, that's still a low price to pay for software....

....They have to do some work on this app before it can come close to the functionality of BM2 and Nanostudio.

Cool. If you do get it please drop us a quick review. I'd get it myself but I feel like I've already attained iOS music production nirvana with Beatmaker 2 and Multitrack DAW.

And relating to the last part of your post, I agree. iOS music production apps are a dime-a-dozen and it will be interesting to see if and how NI will make iMaschine stand out from the rest.