Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By mike_mcroberts Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:38 am
mr_debauch wrote:^ I have a question.. back then when you guys were designing the akai samplers, making the vids, talking about the machines, etc... did you guys think anyone would wind up using things like the mpc60 to sample the way people finally did to make full projects (sample based hip hop and other genres) or did you guys just expect the mpc 60 to be used as a drum sampler machine?


I think we thought of people using it for full projects. Hip hop was just starting as a separate music genre, and that was a surprise and perfect timing for the MPC. Akai was really big in the NYC market, and I spent a lot of time there. What really helped the MPC there initially was Teddy Riley, who had several machines, and was creating New Jack Swing. On his own, he really helped getting the MPC out there for creating beats. Teddy did this on his own, with no affiliation to Akai.

I have a country Christmas album by Gary Morris entirely done with the MPC60. Gary had the original hit with "Wind Beneath My Wings." The MPC crossed all music genres, as did the samplers, and we loved it.

Peace,
Mike
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By tapedeck Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:48 am
mike_mcroberts wrote:I have a country Christmas album by Gary Morris entirely done with the MPC60. Gary had the original hit with "Wind Beneath My Wings." The MPC crossed all music genres, as did the samplers, and we loved it.


props on your work and i like how you refer to the mpc separately from 'the samplers'. it is a beautiful sequencer first and foremost - manipulating the sequencer is where it truly shines as an instrument. :mrgreen:
By daftmunk Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:55 am
mike_mcroberts wrote:
I have a country Christmas album by Gary Morris entirely done with the MPC60. Gary had the original hit with "Wind Beneath My Wings." The MPC crossed all music genres, as did the samplers, and we loved it.


funny you say that, i was just reading a thread here yesterday started by no other then John Mayer, the acoustic pop star (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=102825) he is apparently an MPC fanatic, i would have never guessed from his music but it's true.. the MPC is thought of today as a purely hip-hop product, if you look at akai's promo videos for the new Renaissance, all you will see is hip-hop artists...as an electronic musician myself i feel they are missing the mark a bit..kind of a pity as it's intuitive sequencer can benefit any music genre (i would actually love to see how John Mayer or some country guy freaks an MPC :lol: )
By mike_mcroberts Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:19 pm
peterpiper wrote:I think you're very welcome here :) I just read your work experience with E-mu. I've never heard about that digital mixer from them. Could you tell us about it please?

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I came on board E-mu specifically to lead this project. I also did some other things. The mixer, which went by many names, was a 96 input, 32 bus digital mixer. Inputs or outputs could be analog or digital. E-mu created their own custom chips, and this was built around two new chips they had developed.

It consisted of a 3u Main Mixer Module, which had all the processing power and some I/O, and separate analog and digital expansion modules, which were the main path to get inputs and outputs. There was also going to be an automated mixing control surface for it. Originally, it was going to be the first firewire mixer, but firewire just wasn't there yet in terms of development. So, it had the usual ADAT and AES/EBU digital inputs, as well as something we called G-Wire, named after the engineer who invented it. G-Wire was a 16-channel bi-directional digital interface.

We had a large engineering team working on it. Out of that, we actually made a prototype of the main mixing module, one digital module (I think) and a Windows application to control all the mixer functions. Every input channel had 4-band EQ, as well as our own FX processor, which you could create your own FX with.

I went on an extended trip with drawings and specs to Los Angeles, Nashville, New York, London and other places in England, and Munich, Germany. My goal was to get as much feedback and suggestions from professionals as possible. At each studio, I videotaped their layout and the recording engineers explain how they were using each piece of gear. This was for our engineering group at E-mu, who never got to go out and see these places. I still have that videotape.

After the trip, we got the main module built. I was concerned that the EQ sound as good as possible. So, I went out on another trip with the module, and letting recording engineers play with the EQ, as well as try all the other functions. Strong Room studio, in London, let us have one studio for a day and they invited all these people in to check it out. Orbital was working in the studio, and they checked it out too. Everybody liked the sound the EQ.

We debuted it at the NAMM Show in 97 or 98. I wanted to do a full 5.1 surround sound demo and to have the demo as loud as possible, but there are severe restraints on loudness at the NAMM Show. I really wanted the bass to shake people, so I borrowed an idea from a friend that had a Bodysonic chair. These chairs had built in transducers to shake the chair with bass signals. The transducers produced no sound, just vibration. So, we built a platform for the audience to sit on, and underneath the platform were a number of 15 or 18 inch transducers. We split the subwoofer output to the sub speaker and the transducer floor. It worked great. Peter Gabriel was an E-mu sampler user, and he sent us a 24 track recording formatted for three E-Mu Darwin 8-track digital recorders. I spent a number of days doing a surround mix for it. The mixer got a good reception.

I was gone from E-Mu by the next NAMM Show, but I think showed it again. It never came out as a product, but E-mu gave it to an engineer in Nashville, who was one of the people I visited on my big research trip. I was at his studio a few years later, and he had the main mixer module and was using it as a router.

Here's a press release about it:
http://www.harmonycentral.com/blogs/New ... ital-mixer

Peace,
Mike
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By wudsiba Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:45 pm
Thanks for sharing this stuff. I could read a book of your experience. What was it like actually creating the Mpc?
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By mr_debauch Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:06 am
^ that is pretty awesome. I wonder what that prototype mixer would be worth today...
By daftmunk Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:53 pm
speaking of mixers, mike did you have anything to do with the akai MG series? the layout has an uncanny resemblance to the 60 mk1, i've always been curious about this obscure product in akai history ever since i first saw it on the back of the classic main ingredient album:

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By mike_mcroberts Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:20 pm
wudsiba wrote:Thanks for sharing this stuff. I could read a book of your experience. What was it like actually creating the Mpc?


Roger Linn created it for Akai. I was responsible for getting it introduced, being the liason between Roger and the end-users, creating demos, dealing with artists, etc.

But, it was a lot of fun and exciting times then.
By mike_mcroberts Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:27 pm
daftmunk wrote:speaking of mixers, mike did you have anything to do with the akai MG series?


The MG series (1212 and then 1214) were already in production whern I started at Akai. I did create demos for them. I also worked with the Adams-Smith company to get their Zeta 3 synchronizer compatible with the MG1214. Once we got that working, we could synchronize two MG1214's together for 24 tracks. I have a CD from John Kay and Steppenwolf that he recorded with two MG1214's. At least one of the songs on Don Henley's The End of the Innocence album was done with an MG1214 and MPC60.

Mike
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By wudsiba Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:21 pm
I remember seaing ads in Keyboard magazine with Don Henley backing the original Mpc. I always think of it whenever I hear the title song and boys of summer.
By philphil Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:03 pm
And this is an out-take from a photo session about a month later with three members of Michael Jackson's band, when they were on the BAD Tour. Top row, from the band are Ricky Lawson (drums), Greg Phillinganes (keys), Rory Kaplan (keys). I'm seated. Greg is doing the devil sign. They did Akai clinics in nearly every city where they played on that tour (including a lot in the UK).
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And in the official photo shoot pic they look a bit more serious ;-)

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Mike's out-take pic reminds me of this one in some ways:

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By mike_mcroberts Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:32 pm
wudsiba wrote:I remember seaing ads in Keyboard magazine with Don Henley backing the original Mpc. I always think of it whenever I hear the title song and boys of summer.


I don't have the ad, but I have the photo used.

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By gertie Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:37 pm
did that white dude ever stop playing with himself? :lol:

philphil wrote:
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And in the official photo shoot pic they look a bit more serious ;-)

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