Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By dj krafty Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:23 am
i have a 2000xl and a behringer 2222fx mixer. i have the 8 outs hooked up to the first 8 mono inputs and the mpc hooked up to a stereo channel, but i cannot isolate my tracks. what settings should i use on the mpc in order to get each track on a single channel so i can mix my song?
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By featherboy Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:13 pm
When you are in the MIXER window, press OPEN WINDOW & you get your Channel Settings for each pad. If you have a sound going out of one of the additional 8 outs (listed as INDIV here) turn the volume off for that sound at the STEREO out.
By dj krafty Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:06 am
thanks! :D That info really helped me out and i'm almost there. ok so i turned the volume down but some of my tracks are not coming thru (i.e. hi hats). i've got the kic, snr, and 808s thru the mixer but most of hats,clps, and shaker snds are not working. also why is it i have kics recorded on trac 1, but it may be ch. 5 on the mixer. why do my midi sounds only work on ch 13/14?. this is the ch i have my key plugged into. how can i mix the different midi snds. one more, can u use different drm programs and still use the 8 outs? some of my songs utilize all for programs.
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By featherboy Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:52 pm
Phew...... there's a lot of questions in there.....

why do my midi sounds only work on ch 13/14?. this is the ch i have my key plugged into.

What external midi gear are you using? The MPC can play 32 different midi channels. Two lots of 16 going out of the two different midi outs. But if you just have one external module attached to midi output A & set to receive midi channel 13, nothing is going to happen if you have an MPC track set to midi channel 7 on output B. If you have the synth module set to receive midi channel 7 it will only work if the MPC track you want to play it is set to midi channel 7.....etc.

also why is it i have kics recorded on trac 1, but it may be ch. 5 on the mixer.

Track numbers in a sequence have no relation to assigning sounds to mutiple outs. You assign sounds to mixer outs only in PROGRAM. If you assigned your kick to output 5 in the program it will come through output 5 whether the sequence track is 1, 28 or 60.
By dj krafty Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:15 am
ok, i've got the drums down but how about when i rec a midi track. i'm using a yamaha psr450 keyb and snd module mu-90. when i rec a midi trac how can i channel it to one of the 8 outs. right now it only outputs on channel 15/16, this is my keyb connection. my current situation would be good if i only wanted to rec one sound from the keyb. i changed the output # in mixer setting and channels are the same on the mpc & keyb. i even tried using the pads because when i used the keyb. to record it seemed hopeless.
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By featherboy Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:41 pm
So....... it sounds like you are wondering why you cannot get the sound from your external midi gear to play through the outputs of the MPC?!?!??! How can they do that unless you sample them? The sound from your psr450 can only come out from the output of your psr450. The sound from your mu-90 can only come out from the output of your mu-90.

The MPCs audio outputs only output samples from the MPC. That is, the samples you've put in it. You assign MPC samples to the outputs in the MIXER page. This has nothing to do with midi channels.

Midi data comes out of the midi outputs. The midi channel you send the data from is set in the bottom left corner of the main screen, where you scroll between Drum & MIDI & then go from OFF to the midi channel number. This has absolutley nothing to do with assigning sounds to outputs.

i even tried using the pads because when i used the keyb. to record it seemed hopeless.


Have you got a midi cable going from the midi out of the keyboard to the midi in of the MPC?[/i]

By dj krafty Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:03 pm
i've got the cables from the keyboard to the mpc and i can record midi tracks into my sequence with no problems. but i am having a problem when i try to mix my midi tracks. all of my midi tracks come out the same channel on my mixer (13/14) and this is my stereo out connection, not one of the 8 outs i have connected.

when i change the channels in the bottom left hand corner, i thought that was to get different sounds from the keyboard to play in my sequence, is this correct?

so my main question is how do i mix my midi tracks on one of my 8 out channels? say i have a seq with 14 tracks and 4 of those tracks are coming from midi/keyboard, how can i mix my 4 midi tracks using the mixer? do i have to play the midi sounds from the pads and not the keyboard? when i switch to midi i can hear the sounds from my keyboard on my mpc pads and when i want to change a sound from the keyboard i use the prog change # to find the sound i desire.

By Toecutter Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:04 pm
You are going about this the wrong way bruh... you need to connect audio cables from the outs of your yamaha PSR and sound module into your mixer. The mpc plays the midi, but midi is data, not audio sound. It tells your keyboard and module what button or key you pressed and when you pressed it and in what order, so it plays the keyboard and module for you but you need to have an audio cable coming out of each going into the mixer to hear everything on separate channels at the same time. The mpc isn't a multitrack recorder/mixer, it's a sampling drum machine/sequencer!
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By featherboy Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:13 pm
. you need to connect audio cables from the outs of your yamaha PSR and sound module into your mixer.


I was starting to get really confused as to what you were doing wrong, Krafty.
Has Toecutter got it right here?

By dj krafty Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:35 am
nah! my question has not been answered. i have the audio connections from the mpc to the mixer, that's what i have on channel 13/14. i also have the 8 outs connected to the mixer from the mpc on channels 1-8. the keyboard is connected to the mixer through channle 15/16. i am able to record midi tracks and hear them fine, this is not the problem.

my question is how do i eq my midi tracks using the 8 outs. if i have a seq with 14 tracks and 4 of them are midi tracks from the keyboard, how can i make my 4 midi tracks play through the 8 outs? i have tried everything. i have went into the mixer open window and changed the output # i have also turned down the volume on the stereo and indv sections, but all of my midi sounds always play on channel 15/16. so if i have strings, guitars, and piano from the keyboard on tracks 3,4, and 5 in my seq all of the sounds come out of the same channel. i have also went in and changed the midi channel (i.e. 1a, 2a, 3a) for each track.

can someone please help me?

By Toecutter Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:34 pm
Midi tracks can't be eq'ed through the 8 outs, midi is not audio. The stuff is connected to the mixer so that you can mix it and eq it on the mixer. Anything comig from the 8 outs is sounds from the mpc, any sound modules and keyboards won't have ANY sound coming from the mpc's 8 outs, only what's sampled in the mpc come out of those. All the midi tracks do is play the data to tell your keyboard and module to play what sound, and when, and for how long. All the eqing of the sound modules and keyboards get done on your mixer, do you understand?

By Toecutter Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:37 pm
The sounds only come up on those channels on the mixer cause that's the input on the mixer that the outputs of the keyboard are connected to...
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By featherboy Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:06 am
the keyboard is connected to the mixer through channel 15/16.........
but all of my midi sounds always play on channel 15/16.


yes.... you have connected your keyboard to mixer channel 15/16 so there is no way in the known, physical universe they will play through a different channel by adjusting MPC mixer & midi channel data. You are wanting to do something as impossible as switching on a light & expecting that to start you neighbour's car.

If you really want the sound that comes through your keyboard to be coming out of your MPC you need to sample it.

By dj krafty Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:52 am
ok. i think i've got it now. thanks for all the help. i was wondering if you use a similiar setup in your studio and if so do you sample your melodies and eq them or do you just record them in overdub?
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By Lampdog Wed Nov 17, 2004 9:36 pm
Midi cables carry data and don't carry audio signals.

You got it all twisted homie. But sounds like you got knowledgable people on your team after reading the above.