Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Lampdog Thu May 09, 2013 9:33 pm
I have a triton extreme connected to my 4k.

I use my triton extreme + 4k in the exact same way your describing.
4k is my sequencer and I use my triton as a sound module that plays it's own keys.

Start with pg 73 in your M3 manual.

http://www.americanmusical.com/ItemFile ... manual.pdf
By chiefr_suthrland Fri May 10, 2013 6:03 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:On the MPC Main Screen, change the track type, for the currently selected track, from DRUM to MIDI, and channel/port from OFF to 1A (if your M3 is connected to MPC MIDI output A, and if you want to send MIDI data on channel 1, or change as required).


Yea, Simon, we've already covered this part in my previous post. This is the result of that. All I get is the MPC drums :?
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By SimonInAustralia Fri May 10, 2013 6:24 pm
Some basics, that you most likely already understand, but just to confirm...


The M3 MIDI output is connected to an MPC MIDI input, the M3 keyboard is then used as a MIDI controller for whatever currently selected track is displayed in the MPC Main Screen.

An MPC MIDI output is connected to the M3 MIDI input, the M3 sound engine is then used as an external MIDI sound module for whatever MPC track is set to that particular MPC output/MIDI channel (the MIDI channel might depend on how you setup the M3).

You should be turning local MIDI off in the M3, so that the M3 keyboard is disconnected internally from the M3 sound engine.

The M3 keyboard should be sending MIDI note on/off data to whichever track is currently selected in the MPC Main Screen.

If that MPC track is set to DRUM, it will play the internal MPC drum program sounds, if that MPC track is set to MIDI, it 'should' only send the MIDI data out whatever channel/output the track is set to.



A question, to take the M3 keyboard out of the equation, to begin with...


When you press the MPC pads, while the MPC track is set to MIDI:1A, does it play the MPC drum sounds, or the M3 sounds?
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By SimonInAustralia Fri May 10, 2013 6:26 pm
chiefr_suthrland wrote:
SimonInAustralia wrote:On the MPC Main Screen, change the track type, for the currently selected track, from DRUM to MIDI, and channel/port from OFF to 1A (if your M3 is connected to MPC MIDI output A, and if you want to send MIDI data on channel 1, or change as required).

Yea, Simon, we've already covered this part in my previous post. This is the result of that. All I get is the MPC drums :?

...Huh?...
chiefr_suthrland wrote:No, wait, that other dude never mentioned changing DRUM1 to MIDI. I'll try that rite now & get back to you. Hopefully it works :smoker:

That other dude? Me? In the post you just quoted? WTF?

But yeah, that is what I suggested, that is your problem.
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By chiefr_suthrland Fri May 10, 2013 6:32 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:
chiefr_suthrland wrote:
SimonInAustralia wrote:On the MPC Main Screen, change the track type, for the currently selected track, from DRUM to MIDI, and channel/port from OFF to 1A (if your M3 is connected to MPC MIDI output A, and if you want to send MIDI data on channel 1, or change as required).

Yea, Simon, we've already covered this part in my previous post. This is the result of that. All I get is the MPC drums :?

chiefr_suthrland wrote:No, wait, that other dude never mentioned changing DRUM1 to MIDI. I'll try that rite now & get back to you. Hopefully it works :smoker:

That other dude? Me? In the post you just quoted? WTF?


But yeah, that is what I suggested, that is your problem.


Haha. Nah, that other dude in my last post who gave me a step by step "How To". You just told me where the "DRUM1: 1A" crap was located.
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By SimonInAustralia Fri May 10, 2013 6:39 pm
I tried to tell you that in the other thread as well.

But anyway, it should fix it.

Then you should look at setting up a mutli-timbral combination on the M3, where you can setup a different M3 program on each of the 16 MIDI channels, and sequence different M3 sounds on different MPC tracks at the same time.
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By SimonInAustralia Fri May 10, 2013 6:42 pm
Have you connected it up as per my suggestion above?

Have you tried playing it with the MPC pads?

Do you get any sound from the M3 when playing it's own keys, with the M3 local control on?

Are you sure you can hear the M3 audio outputs while you are trying this?

Can you explain exactly what is connected to what, in the way you have connected the M3 to the MPC?
By chiefr_suthrland Fri May 10, 2013 8:12 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:I tried to tell you that in the other thread as well.

But anyway, it should fix it.

Then you should look at setting up a mutli-timbral combination on the M3, where you can setup a different M3 program on each of the 16 MIDI channels, and sequence different M3 sounds on different MPC tracks at the same time.


Once again Simon, you are the frickin' man ! lol. The combi/timbral trick worked like a charm. Only one "tiny" problem now. The M3 sounds sound kinda low on the MPC, idk y. Any suggestions? :smoker:

& YES, I have the volume turned all the way up...lol
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By chiefr_suthrland Fri May 10, 2013 8:22 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:Have you connected it up as per my suggestion above?

Have you tried playing it with the MPC pads?

Do you get any sound from the M3 when playing it's own keys, with the M3 local control on?

Are you sure you can hear the M3 audio outputs while you are trying this?

Can you explain exactly what is connected to what, in the way you have connected the M3 to the MPC?


Can you explain exactly what is connected to what, in the way you have connected the M3 to the MPC?

~ MPC: MIDI OUT to M3 MIDI IN; MIDI IN to M3 MIDI OUT

Have you connected it up as per my suggestion above?

~ YERP !

Have you tried playing it with the MPC pads?

~ YEA, IT PLAYS THE KEYS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE :mrgreen:

Do you get any sound from the M3 when playing it's own keys, with the M3 local control on?

~ WITH IT ON OR OFF, I CAN GET SOUND FROM THEE M3 ITSELF. YES :nod:
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By SimonInAustralia Fri May 10, 2013 11:15 pm
chiefr_suthrland wrote:Have you tried playing it with the MPC pads?

~ YEA, IT PLAYS THE KEYS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE :mrgreen:

I thought that you wanted to sequence the M3 sounds from the MPC, so, playing the M3 sounds from the pads is doing that.

That is confirmation that the connection from the MPC MIDI Output to the M3 MIDI input is setup right, and working, if you play MPC pads and sounds come out of the M3.


chiefr_suthrland wrote:Do you get any sound from the M3 when playing it's own keys, with the M3 local control on?

~ WITH IT ON OR OFF, I CAN GET SOUND FROM THEE M3 ITSELF. YES :nod:

With the M3 Local Control set to off, and the MIDI cables to the MPC disconnected, you can still play the M3 sounds using the M3 keyboard?

That doesn't sound right.


chiefr_suthrland wrote:The combi/timbral trick worked like a charm. Only one "tiny" problem now. The M3 sounds sound kinda low on the MPC, idk y. Any suggestions? :smoker:

& YES, I have the volume turned all the way up...lol

Can you explain a little more about what you mean?

What does it mean that the M3 sounds low on the MPC?

How are you listening to the output of the MPC, and the M3, are they both going into a mixer, or are you somehow listening to the output of the M3 through the MPC?

I don't understand that part.
By chiefr_suthrland Fri May 10, 2013 11:40 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:
chiefr_suthrland wrote:Have you tried playing it with the MPC pads?

~ YEA, IT PLAYS THE KEYS, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE :mrgreen:

I thought that you wanted to sequence the M3 sounds from the MPC, so, playing the M3 sounds from the pads is doing that.

That is confirmation that the connection from the MPC MIDI Output to the M3 MIDI input is setup right, and working, if you play MPC pads and sounds come out of the M3.


chiefr_suthrland wrote:Do you get any sound from the M3 when playing it's own keys, with the M3 local control on?

~ WITH IT ON OR OFF, I CAN GET SOUND FROM THEE M3 ITSELF. YES :nod:

With the M3 Local Control set to off, and the MIDI cables to the MPC disconnected, you can still play the M3 sounds using the M3 keyboard?

That doesn't sound right.


chiefr_suthrland wrote:The combi/timbral trick worked like a charm. Only one "tiny" problem now. The M3 sounds sound kinda low on the MPC, idk y. Any suggestions? :smoker:

& YES, I have the volume turned all the way up...lol

Can you explain a little more about what you mean?

What does it mean that the M3 sounds low on the MPC?

How are you listening to the output of the MPC, and the M3, are they both going into a mixer, or are you somehow listening to the output of the M3 through the MPC?

I don't understand that part.


Problem solved broham! I had it plugged into the wrong port on my mixer. It sounds mega loud now. Thanks again! I'll make sure to hit you up if I run into any more road blocks :smoker:
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