The New Maschine Studio: NI just BODIED the Renaissance.....

I am curious to know how many of you actually even own a current Maschine?

I own the original Maschine and I can tell you this...
Its a dope piece of gear and I love it but I must say its not for everyone.
The workflow is very different than an MPC.

Explicit- wrote:I am curious to know how many of you actually even own a current Maschine?

I own the original Maschine and I can tell you this...
Its a dope piece of gear and I love it but I must say its not for everyone.
The workflow is very different than an MPC.

yeah I have it, but not to use myself really... I work with another producer who has it but we installed it on my computer too... that way he can load up projects over here, or send me stuff I need through google drive etc. So I essentially have his license installed. I am curious though if he pays the 99 bucks to upgrade (not sure if he will or not) would I just download it as well, because I will probably need to in order to open projects he sends. I don't use it to make beats personally... but I have messed around with it a bit and have tried it out with other controllers. it for sure isn't the same, but it works if I need to change stuff quickly.

I do like it, I like the sequencer... and this unlimited fx pluggins addition in 2.0 makes it a real contender in my book. That is actually a very nice thing they did there.

Explicit- wrote:I am curious to know how many of you actually even own a current Maschine?

I own the original Maschine and I can tell you this...
Its a dope piece of gear and I love it but I must say its not for everyone.
The workflow is very different than an MPC.

I had it and like you said, it wasn't for me. That doesn't make it any less of a great product though. In the time I spent with it and looking at the 2.0 update I will freely admit to the fact that it is an AMAZING tool, if you can gel with it.

2.0 looks cool definitely buying it.

Not sure about the controller yet though the screens look cool but ultimately experience makes me sceptical.

My favourite synth is still the access virus and look at the screen on that!

ROland synths have incredible screens but after a month not sure the appeals lasts.

Pad banks rather than groups would have been my preference
Realtime timestretching was my major wish for maschine
Didn't get either which is a shame.

Not entirely convinced I don't just like the video yet.

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On second thought...and after further review...

I'm definitely holding off on the STUDIO...I want more clarification on the logistics of the midi implementation.

If I'm dumpin' a stack on a controller...I feel it better be the centerpiece to my studio.

If this can only send cc to devices while in midi mode....scratch me off

had the mk1, sold it cpl of months ago (lucky me, now its value is droppin at lightspeed) because i'm a trainer (mostly ableton live, for which i'm a certified trainer but i also give courses and 1to1's on maschine and other stuff....) and have to keep my gear up to date. but luckily i didnt bought the mk2 yet

now my setup comprises push, mpc2k5 , virus ti.
i'll surely pick the new maschine studio. mpc ren never was an option from my point of view. i stopped trusting akai (or nukai) after seeing how they totally abandon capable products that only need some software updates (think 4k, 1k, 5k....), how can i trust a company like that?

anyway, even with 1.8 i managed to produce entire , finished tracks and long running livesets, in standalone mode. with 2.0 life will be even better

on the other hand ableton made a great move with push, i think is the first controller to bring back the fun in producing with live. i can see myself using both a lot and going back to the 2k5 when i dont want to bother with laptops and go straight to the beat. or for peculiar performances (e.g.: with bands. bands don't like to have laptops flyng around on stage )

Damn.. I never saw a league of people turn their back on a product so fast lmaoo

Im not gonna lie though, im ready to abandon ship too...

Its funny though... I just checked the native instruments forum and theyre opposite of how everyone feels over here... theyre ripping this thing apart lol

http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... ine-Studio

Who knows whose gonna be the winner though... Akai is giving consistent updates, finally at the point it shouldve been at release... 6 months from now I think it'll be a problem.. Im gonna wait to see how the Maschine does first and see what the critics say.. This renaissance I have will be the LAST thing I ever buy off of hype smh

i thought this was a stand alone maschine? am i wrong? its another controller?


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....**** its another controller

Why do people want a stand alone machines?
Do your computers suck that bad?
Eventually the beat needs to be on your computer to mix, upload online etc.
It's 2000's people. Why are you guys afraid of software?
Not to mention it's much easier for a machine to stay relevant and not be outdated.

Beyond a 4K, 2500 with JJOS, and/or an MV 8800 I don't see a standalone machine being any more advanced than updating the screens and memory storage.

What's the point?

The whole point of going with software is to expand upon what's already been done.

Explicit- wrote:Why do people want a stand alone machines?
Do your computers suck that bad?

No.

Explicit- wrote:Eventually the beat needs to be on your computer to mix, upload online etc.

No it doesn't.

Explicit- wrote:It's 2000's people.

It's actually the 2010s

Explicit- wrote:Why are you guys afraid of software?

Who's "afraid"? You are assuming to much. It's called, "preference".

Explicit- wrote:Not to mention it's much easier for a machine to stay relevant and not be outdated.

Are acoustic guitars irrelevant and outdated?

The main issue with your type of mindset and people who share the same mindset is that you are looking at the MPC/Maschine/Whatever as a tool and not an instrument. If you looked at it like an instrument, you'd understand more.

Explicit- wrote:Why do people want a stand alone machines?
Do your computers suck that bad?
Eventually the beat needs to be on your computer to mix, upload online etc.
It's 2000's people. Why are you guys afraid of software?
Not to mention it's much easier for a machine to stay relevant and not be outdated.

for the same reason that you can just buy a used MPC60, turn it on and make beats... no matter how old it is.

whereas all software has a limited lifespan & support... eventually a new operating system comes along that won't support the drivers for that older controller.

if the MPC60 [as the example i'm using here] were a software controller of it's time, you would need to buy an old Apple IIe computer without a hard drive and load the software off of 5" floppy disks.

some of us have been into gear for a while and like our equipment to last us over 5 years. that is why.

crossings wrote:

Explicit- wrote:Why do people want a stand alone machines?
Do your computers suck that bad?
Eventually the beat needs to be on your computer to mix, upload online etc.
It's 2000's people. Why are you guys afraid of software?
Not to mention it's much easier for a machine to stay relevant and not be outdated.

for the same reason that you can just buy a used MPC60, turn it on and make beats... no matter how old it is.

whereas all software has a limited lifespan & support... eventually a new operating system comes along that won't support the drivers for that older controller.

if the MPC60 [as the example i'm using here] were a software controller of it's time, you would need to buy an old Apple IIe computer without a hard drive and load the software off of 5" floppy disks.

some of us have been into gear for a while and like our equipment to last us over 5 years. that is why.

You nailed it. I can't even use most software coming out now since I decided to stay at 10.6 on both of my Macs. I'm 2 almost 3 OS's behind at this point, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. And this is another reason I can't ever see me not using my 2500 as my centerpiece.

I think it looks great, though I will likely pass on it. It seems poised to be a serious piece of gear but I had a few quibbles with the original Maschine software and while I'm sure it's improved, I have a working method that I prefer. So, I'll stick with that, for now. That being said, this new controller looks to be a great tool for people who wish to have Maschine as the center of their workflow. I will however likely do the software update to reap the results of what's on offer and maybe potentially use it (non-Studio) again as a periphery tool. Of course, I'll leave room to be convinced of otherwise though because this new controller is aesthetically impressive and may have an even better symbiosis with the software that'll change my mind.

NI definitely has the reservoir of talent to continue to move this and other products forward, so I'll continue to look into it.