Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By Mike Boogie Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:33 pm
That's exactly what I was thinking... maybe they won't remove it, but implement it in a different and hopefully better, manner.

rookie wrote:Well, your from west Atlanta I understand why you would that way :popcorn:


As for this little remark, I'm not even going to dignify this silly shit with a response...
ByMPCHolland053 Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:53 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:
Mike Boogie wrote:It will end up running a version of the MPC software stripped-down to the level of a "Traditional" MPC OS.

:hmmm: Other than removing VST plugin support, what is there to be stripped-down in MPC Software?


haha King question...
btw removing vst support would suck big time
By master-ceo Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:14 pm
evillmusic wrote:People aren't grasping the concept of this "REN2" I guess.... This would blow the color screen out of a Maschine studio...Its a stand alone with a PC built in... It also has internet connection in the back of the unit! This is what the REN 1 should of been!


+10000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded

I used to play around with Windows CE/ Embedded years ago running it off compact flash cards on micro pc's. Being that ARM Processors are so powerful nowadays this would be the perfect match.

This should enable AKAI to make one of the most powerful and dopest stand alone MPC's with minimum bugs. :popcorn:

I could care less about it running Commercial VST's, but would be more interested in it Running VST's made strictly for the MPC Software with the proper SDK, distributed like App Store software straight to the REN 2 Standalone.

You have the OG REN latched on to a laptop for that commercial shit.
By master-ceo Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:28 pm
Quoting Pete from Synthtopia:

The comments about viruses may have been right in XP days, but not in any recent history. It’s a bit of a tired comment, really. a bit like saying Honda makes only cheap imports that break down constantly. May have been true in the 70s, but not today.

Windows Embedded lets the developer have more control in any case (if they want to), to help prevent any sort of bad things from happening, to control how updates are applied, to optimize the platform for audio and security, etc. You probably don’t realize how much reliable and critical hardware runs Windows. For example, over 90% of the world’s ATMs run one form or another of Windows Embedded. Most hand-held industrial devices run Windows Embedded. Having the operating system optimized for one thing, and one thing only, can make the device blazing fast and super stable. In this case, that one thing is audio.

The new Numark NS7 (shown only on a slide during the same presentation) is also an amazing device. I can’t wait to see what these both look like in their final cases

This prototype device, even without the final software, is amazing. No more big screen between you and the audience, and no need to keep looking over at a laptop.

Also, here’s the new MIDI API announcement from Build (Jason and I presented this session), along with some tips for lower latency audio.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/3-548

Disclaimer: I work in this space at Microsoft, and arranged for the Akai demo, and several others. I’m passionate about creative audio and video devices and software.

Pete

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By SimonInAustralia Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:34 pm
evillmusic wrote:People aren't grasping the concept of this "REN2" I guess.... This would blow the color screen out of a Maschine studio...Its a stand alone with a PC built in...

Is it?

evillmusic wrote:It also has internet connection in the back of the unit!

Does it?
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By GNRFAMZT Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:42 am
interesting development. goodliffe changed his comment...
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he has taken out the vocable "prototype".
does that mean that the new flagship mpc is right around the corner?
whatever the case may be, the ren is toast. that´s for sure.
By forwerd Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:29 am
Standalone should have proprietary OS. Every OS has updates, windows, osx, android, Akai keep up? I say if JJ (of JJOS) would get in on the action it would make several people happy. He did work with MPCStuff to modify the OS for the XLScreens. Not sure what the relationship is there with Akai and JJ. I like that idea better than a portable Ren. And that prototype is ugly anyway.

One thing that could be nice is if in included plugins to be installed and it had multiple outs via USB and 8 analog outputsp
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By SimonInAustralia Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:12 am
GNRFAMZT wrote:interesting development. goodliffe changed his comment...
Last edited by akaipete on Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

he has taken out the vocable "prototype".
does that mean that the new flagship mpc is right around the corner?
whatever the case may be, the ren is toast. that´s for sure.

Has he deleted all his tweets about it?
By ValourBaby Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:22 am
SimonInAustralia wrote:
GNRFAMZT wrote:interesting development. goodliffe changed his comment...
Last edited by akaipete on Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

he has taken out the vocable "prototype".
does that mean that the new flagship mpc is right around the corner?
whatever the case may be, the ren is toast. that´s for sure.

Has he deleted all his tweets about it?


Yes he has I just checked his twitter.
I wonder why. Maybe they told him not to say anything about it.
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By daftmunk Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:16 pm
GNRFAMZT wrote:does that mean that the new flagship mpc is right around the corner?
whatever the case may be, the ren is toast. that´s for sure.


not so sure ren is toast.. most likely this thing runs ren software..
if anything that could mean further upgrades..

i'm just a bit puzzled by the use of windows.. this sort of means mac users are screwed which would be fatal since most pro audio producers are on that platform.. :hmmm:
By gonche Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:15 pm
Makes perfect sense to use Windows Embedded to me.
Apple dosent license out IOS or MacOSX so AU plugins are a no go.

Linux although great for embedded systems, has no real market in VST instruments.

This can only be a good thing for Ren users as developers can consolidate on the same application, maybe this is the plan for version 2.0.

In my own opinion i think it's great we will start seeing stand alone machines which may have analog effects in the future.

Watch NI jump on the same concept, I suspect they may well choose Windows Embedded aswell.

Also it would be kinda cool to see if third parties make applications for the Ren 2 which would be most interesting. Akai should release an SDK to allow people to take advantage of the hardware.

All good news anyway :) also like the look of it and I would purchase one, but I suspect it will be bloody expensive.
By daftmunk Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:26 pm
surely the product integrates into your existing computer setup.. so if you're on mac you're basically screwed?! also not sure what you mean by analog effects? highly unlikely unless you mean analog filters perhaps borrowed from the rhythm wolf... now that would be killer..
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By M-Chop Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:27 pm
Akai is all over the place, this is why I bought Maschine. N.I has a solid foundation. Anyone who disses it is just being a Akai fanboy that's hanging on to the last bit of faith they have in this company.

I think this product will be good, but my question is will it be drastically different then the Renaissance and Studio, because even though M STUDIO is different than MK2 and Nikro, previous owners of the hardware are not to affected and haven't upgraded