Layered sound --> Mix output?

I was just wondering if there was a way to get a layered sound, say a kick to output from one of the assignable outs? I know you could do this on the 4000 and I know the weird mono pan quirk thing on the 2500, but if I have say a kick layered with another kick, how can I get that second kick on it's own separate channel? I'd even settle for a bootleg work around and this point.

I'm currently on the basic 1.0 Akai OS.

Thanks!

Lampdog wrote:Stereo kik needs 2 indy outs.

Well I know about assigning it to outs 1/2 or I usually use 3/4 and I know you have to pan to the left/right for mono outs but I don't think just doing that was sending the layered sound to output 4.

Okay. But where in the mixer is the option for "sound 2" is what I'm asking. If I just set it to 1/2 and pan to the left both sounds come through mono 1. That's not what I'm looking to do.

That's right, the mixer works per pad, when you assign multiple samples to a single pad, you only have one mixer channel, and one pan control, for those multiple samples, you can't pan one left and the other right.

Maybe a workaround, if the samples are mono, might be to turn them into stereo samples, make one mono sample be the left channel only of a stereo sample, and the other mono sample be the right channel only of a stereo sample. Then panned centre into a pair of individual outputs, one sample might play out one individual output, and the other sample might play out the other individual output. That is just a guess though.

This is a bit obvious and may not b what ure looking for but instead of layering them on the same pad keep em as 2 different pads and layer them with the sequencer.

Would that flam?

Mayb, gotta try, I know I use the sequencer to layer now and then and mostly don't notice any, mayb its just me and cuz I'm not listening for it, I usually track out my different layers on independent channels anyways so I'm not that concerned about it.

Worth a try for the OP, might be good for what he wants.

But then again I almost never layer 2 sounds that are similar and almost always have only one that has an attack transient.

dr4track wrote:This is a bit obvious and may not b what ure looking for but instead of layering them on the same pad keep em as 2 different pads and layer them with the sequencer.

yup, or read about Simult feature, which actually gives such possiblity to have layers with their own mixer, filters etc

Bugfix wrote:yup, or read about Simult feature, which actually gives such possiblity to have layers with their own mixer, filters etc

Can you do that in the MPC2500?