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By hok-2 Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:31 pm
:WTF:
Personally I don't understand why you all get on you high horse when some one wants to recreate a beat.

That's how musicians learn, by emulating the greats.
It's merely good musical practice.

The people who sampled it in the first place were just biteing how dope the guys who really played it in the first place.

Don't go on like you're a musician
Face it. you play a drum machine.

Clowns.
By rogue scrunt Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:27 am
do whatcha like

have fun, make music.
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By jibber Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:45 pm
Who gets on their high horse?

There's a well respected member on here called JVC and he recreated a lot of classic beats using a roland SP and later a 2000XL. Most people found it to be dope.

And besides that, your argument about musicians and people who play drum machines... how come you know everybody on this forum and their skills?

Many people on here started out differently, many people played instruments, some of them i am sure are highly skilled. I think it's rather you who should get "down" from your arrogant point of view... or high horse, whatever you wanna call it.

Is the music of The Roots better because they play real instruments? Is the music of Pete Rock not good because he used a drum machine? Who are you to determine what counts as a musician and what rather goes into your so called category of "drum machine players"?

I can tell you from experience. A person with no ear for music, no feeling for rhythm, no understanding of harmonies... will be just as shit on a drum machine as on a piano.

Your point is stupid. Peace. :wink: :popcorn:

PS: All music is copied. Please come up with a musical piece that contains scales and harmonies that have never been used before, then post it here.

PS2: I played instruments since the age of four. Piano, Violin, Bass, Guitar, etc.
I took guitar lessons for a few years and studied for a short time at the swiss international jazz school. I play a drum machine. What category do i fit into now? :Sigh: :wink:
By mastasteez Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:23 pm
Well said Jibber. I agreed with OP's first sentiment but his final comments were plain ignorant.
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By Tag One The Fader Fiend Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:46 pm
I use the turntable as an musical instrument as well as using a drum machine to make music as well. So if I sample myself using the turntable as an musical instrument does that make me a musician or a clown :hmmm:
By JVC Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:30 pm
jibber wrote:...
There's a well respected member on here called JVC and he recreated a lot of classic beats using a roland SP and later a 2000XL. Most people found it to be dope.
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Oh, thank you for mentioning! But, I use Korg Electribe ES-1, instead of Roland SP!
I still use my ES-1!

(shameless plug)
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By jibber Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:23 pm
Hey JVC,

Yeah it was the Electribe, you're right! Must have mixed that up somehow... Time flies! :smoker:

I always thought your covers were spot on, nice to re-listen to them (that bassline sounds so nice and filthy!). Hope all is good with you.

Peace!
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By peterpiper Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:36 am
Again a nice vid JVC. What is that grey box beside the Electribe? just 1 knob....a preamp ?

peace
By JVC Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:06 pm
peterpiper wrote:What is that grey box beside the Electribe? just 1 knob....a preamp ?


It's a homemade phono preamp with headphone amp build-in. One switch is for on/off and other one is for cross feed (it basically corrects extreme stereo panning.) It sounds great! It is used in all of my YouTube clips.

For those who are familiar with electronics, the unit is basically a combination of those two circuits:
(I cannot answer questions regarding circuit design, I'm not very familiar with circuit design.)

Phono preamp (with op-amps):
http://sound.westhost.com/project06.htm

Headphone amp:
http://sound.westhost.com/project109.htm

This headphone amp features an interesting function; cross feed switch, which I thought I wouldn't use it at all, but turned out to be very useful, when listening to those records with super panned stereo (like, guitar on left channel ONLY and drum on the right channel ONLY.)
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By Star One Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:45 pm
Almost everything I sample was not dope to begin with. If you got soul you can make anything funky and live.

I dont think its a matter of being high and mighty. What I know can be frowned on is putting peoples samples on blast. Like for example a guy on youtube who politely asks people not to throw him under the bus and will delete those comments, but people would ask here about it. I would say ask the person himself and say what he said.

At the end of the day, you dont wanna get gassed up by internet posts. What you do is your choice, really what is right or wrong for you is different.

Another one is meant to be positive encouragement. Recreating is different then biting. A lot of people get frustrated and want instant sound good. Maybe if they arent sounding to good to themselves or cant find dope samples. So they hear a joint, want the sample so they can sound good too.

Sadly that doesn't always work out. And its encourage to say, keep at it trying to find your thing, like you could find more success finding your own sound then relying on using those of others.

Everyone has their reasons. And if it was also me being a part of this group got you gassed, I do apologize. Its tough to read emotion in text, so sometimes trying to give advice sounds like high and mighty. Or saying this stuff to impress others.

I just thought for a second I do fall into who you could be talking about (= If I seem a bit of out pocket maybe this all will help. I know a lottttt of people do, but I dont say stuff on here or anywhere with the intent to put anyone down :(
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By hok-2 Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:27 am
Sometimes I should just walk away from the keyboard and leave it alone.

Ner but, my gripe was with people dissising people for wanting to find out & explore how songs were made and the cliquey elitism of "well is you don't know then you don't deserve to know' shit.

That stuff just really annoys me.

One.


Word JVC
That's dopeness.
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By Star One Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:43 pm
Oh wow, okay yeah never heard that one. Makes more sence what your upset about.
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By jibber Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:34 pm
hok-2 wrote:Sometimes I should just walk away from the keyboard and leave it alone.

Ner but, my gripe was with people dissising people for wanting to find out & explore how songs were made and the cliquey elitism of "well is you don't know then you don't deserve to know' ****.

That stuff just really annoys me.

One.


Word JVC
That's dopeness.


My apologies then, think i misunderstood your first post. :oops: :)