I want an SP 1200 but damn!!

jibber wrote:^ That's why i was afraid only using one channel, in case there's something dope going on on the other one.

Phra*DOC wrote:+1 for the downbylow poster but with TWO sp's i have no choice but to hate you !:P
(where are you in switz exactly?? I'm on the italian border!)

That is a great movie, isn't it?

I'm located near Zurich (about 20 min in direction bern/basel from zurich).

I use an eps 16+ for samples and i know ure more limited than me on sample time but even b4 that i never sample anything in stereo. Always mono, listen to the record decide which side u like the best, or sample one bar from the left 1 from the right and switch it up when i map out. I like using only one side at a time i find it more interesting, but to each their own. i personally hate sampling stereo.

THE ADVERSARY wrote:Most of the time unreleased tracks that are later released tend to let you know why they were unreleaased.

Word.

I could listen to SP beats all day if I had the time.

Getting hold of a SCI Studio 440 in the UK/Europe is proving to be a challenge.

It's an interesting little box of tricks, but real short on memory. Came out around the same time as the SP1200, but had much better midi implimentation and SCSI.

I ask myself if it is worth SP1200 money. Well in some ways it is, and in other ways it isnt. Spotted this one on the bay, looks as clean as a goddamn whistle...

$2299 or £1427 Buy It Now.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291236044314? ... EBIDX%3AIT



Apparently they only built 500 of these before Sequential Circuits folded.

Dave Smith should have re-released this instead of the Tempest, if only...

jibber wrote:I used it together with an ASR-10 and will do that again soon (broken, getting fixed). IMO it's a great combo. The SP is good for drums and occasional sample, ASR for stereo samples (and it simply sounds great to sample vinyl, some say they sprinkled fairy dust over them in the factory).

I use to do this too, now I sequence my roland fantom S to the sp1200 sequencer
Love it.

How u say??
Midi out sp - to midi in s950 midi through from s950 to midi in on fantom

On fantom settings- midi receive channel to ch2 this way the sp will not trigger ANY OF SOUNDS FROM THE KEYBOARD WHEN U PRESS SP BUTTONS.
Set the fantoms sequencer to midi sync. Now turn off track 1 on fantom. U can't use it. But u can now sequence channels 2 through 16 with a sound or sample on the fantom from the sp. Pick your sound. Press record on the fantom to arm it, press play on the sp and start playing those keys! The sp1200 can sequence any keyboard that has a sequencer on it.
Sorry for the long ass post

Dont think ive ever seen an SP1200 is mint condition like this one, with all the original sound library disks too. But this SP1200 isnt going anywhere for cheap...doesn't look like its been used much, if at all. Minty fresh reissue.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181521919952? ... EBIDX%3AIT











$3800 or £2359.

Get in there!

clint, i count upon you to cop a 440 and make an extensive sound demo of it
lol joking but i do hope youll get to find one for a reasonable price. It's really fascinating, even rarer than an sp, i dont even know whether sound-and-worflow wise is as good as an sp or it is just a really really rare piece of gear

IMO the 440 is kind of totaly "not sexy". I think it wouldn't put me in the mood to make beats. The SP on the other hand..........I never had my fingers on a SP but I already KNOW that I would have a lot of fun with it

peace

Clint, i think the Studio 440 would be dope. Prices seem high because it's much more rare. There was one here in switzerland and it sold for over 2k within a day (was just luck maybe).

And regarding that SP1200, it's mint allright, but SPs actually hide scratches in photos very well... so i'm almost sure there is a little scratch or two somewhere. It looks almost as clean as the one from my friend (he should really do something to the yellow buttons to look white again). I can already see a difference tho... look at the sliders, they are slightly crooked. On the SP of my friend, all the sliders are at exact same height above face plate, all are exact same angle and straight. Minus the yellowy buttons, still the most "mint" SP i've ever seen.

I don't get it anyway with the mint craze and SP1200s... as long as the face plate looks clean and all buttons and sliders work, you will never notice a few scratches on the black plastic. Mine has a few, i never notice them... it's a "rough" surface black plastic... its doesn't stand out at all.

If it's not in terrible condition, most SPs will look mint in pictures. Look at mine posted in this thread. Another user even said "that's a minty looking SP"... but it's just in good condition... on close up view it would show you quite a few small scratches and dents it collected over the years (like i say tho, with the SP design they don't stand out as much as they would on a grey akai machine).

Phra*DOC wrote:It's really fascinating, even rarer than an sp, i dont even know whether sound-and-worflow wise is as good as an sp or it is just a really really rare piece of gear

I would say the 440 has the best bits of the SP12 and the Linn 9000/MPC60. It's a cool looking box of tricks from a company specialising in... dope analogue synths, much like E-mu incidentally. It's like an SP1200 with a SCSI port as standard and MPC like external MIDI sequencing control.

Why wouldn't a Sequential Circuits drum sampler be as good as what Akai (MPC60) and E-mu (SP12/SP1200) were offering around the same time? Only difference is Sequential folded with only 500 being produced. Who knows how many of those machines are still in existence.

I'd only buy it at a price where I'd be guaranteed to get my investment back if I sold it. It looks like an interesting piece to work with, and apparently the Sequential Circuits Prophet 2000/2002 share the same 'sound engine', similar operating system and can load 440 disks.

Hers is a 440 for $4999.00, with 58 watchers? Even though the other one is less than half that price. I think people just want to see if anybody pulls the trigger lol. It looks to be minty, but $4999.00?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Sequential ... 0730758064

Sequential Circuits Prophet 2002 is dope, its a sleeper at the moment...

Clint wrote:
Why wouldn't a Sequential Circuits drum sampler be as good as what Akai (MPC60) and E-mu (SP12/SP1200) were offering around the same time?

Because we are talking about a time where manufacturers believed that being different was a good thing.
It caused most creations to be about them trying to do the same thing but it would be their own take on it.

It made for some very strange workflows.

i guess the 80's were like that also for the musician themselves, all about experimentation and innovation, "new" and "different" were the shit, a priori. Now it's all about jerking off with a crazed retrogear lust and we currently have 46 pages to prove it

Clint wrote:

SD 2100 is an emulation of the famous Emu SP 1200 Beat box.

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=171

I remember seeing that here a long time ago. It aint bad. Too bad there aint a Mac version.

Phra*DOC wrote:i guess the 80's were like that also for the musician themselves, all about experimentation and innovation, "new" and "different" were the shit, a priori. Now it's all about jerking off with a crazed retrogear lust and we currently have 46 pages to prove it

Lots of retro classic gear was considered sh*tty in it's time.
Some proved itself over time while others became legendary from hype.

The key is to know the difference.

I've read somewhere that even the e-mu engineers admitted that the sp1200 converters they used weren't exactly the best ones... Or they wrote it in the service manual even, not sure anymore.

jibber wrote:I've read somewhere that even the e-mu engineers admitted that the sp1200 converters they used weren't exactly the best ones... Or they wrote it in the service manual even, not sure anymore.

The founders touch on it in this Q&A session.