Anyone tried these?

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Re: Anyone tried these?

By mr_debauch Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:41 am
but why those? 808 and 909 samples are easy to get online and you could just sample them into the mpc to make your own kits.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By Wallace Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:01 am
mr_debauch wrote:but why those? 808 and 909 samples are easy to get online and you could just sample them into the mpc to make your own kits.


To save time. Hundreds of hits on each zip. I normally sample everything from vinyl, easy to get some good kicks and claps that way. Hard to get the hats I want though.

I do make house music btw.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By richie Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:20 am
Save time homie? All you need to do is use google and find tons of websites that have 808 samples online. I know they have internet in Australia too so stop being lazy? :)
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By richie Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:48 am
I'll also add that if you're insistent that you purchase a 808 kit online, one decent one is the "Drum Machine Evolution" one, I believe mpc forums member Canedrive put that one together:
http://www.mpc-samples.com/product.php/ ... evolution/


If you have any questions, either respond here or send me a pm.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By mr_debauch Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:59 am
you think you will save time until you are previewing 300+ sounds on the mpc to pick which kick or clap out of 80 you will want to use... hahahahaha
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By richie Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:05 am
What I do is when I go through folders of wav files of drums I like, I rename the ones I like to swag kick 1, trap holla kick 1, etc so I know which are the hot drumz.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By The Jackal Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:32 pm
Wallace wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:but why those? 808 and 909 samples are easy to get online and you could just sample them into the mpc to make your own kits.


To save time. Hundreds of hits on each zip. I normally sample everything from vinyl, easy to get some good kicks and claps that way. Hard to get the hats I want though.

I do make house music btw.


I make housey stuff too and at the end of the day I found it's useless to have so many drum samples. It's all just 808s and 909s. Dance music started with those 2 drum machines, so just download them and be done.

I'm exaggerating of course...what I am saying is I had ALL my drum machines and sounds on a card and it was pointless. So I deleted everything, got some good 808s and 909s, then I went back through all my drum machines and said "okay, I'm only going to put like, 10-20 REEEAAALLY good kicks that I like on my CF card. Then I'll do the same when I find about 10-20 really good snares/claps/hats/etc.". I spent the time taking a select few sounds and running them through outboard gear so I could get exactly what I want. Now I've got like, 100 go to sounds that I know are good and I don't have to waste time trolling through samples. I fire up my MPC, pull some drums out of the 808 or 909 folder, then a few out of my one and only other drum sample folder, and I'm making a beat in less than a minute.

Not only that, but by using the same samples over and over, you begin to develop your own signature sound, but without having to sound the same all the time: yeah, a dozen or so kicks might sound limiting...but the fact that you can put 3 kicks on one pad and change pitch, tuning, filters, envelopes, etc. means you have almost unlimited options. And hey, if it turns into a kick you really like, just resample it and save it for later, then you can edit it and blend it with the others.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By Wallace Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:19 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Wallace wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:but why those? 808 and 909 samples are easy to get online and you could just sample them into the mpc to make your own kits.


To save time. Hundreds of hits on each zip. I normally sample everything from vinyl, easy to get some good kicks and claps that way. Hard to get the hats I want though.

I do make house music btw.


I make housey stuff too and at the end of the day I found it's useless to have so many drum samples. It's all just 808s and 909s. Dance music started with those 2 drum machines, so just download them and be done.

I'm exaggerating of course...what I am saying is I had ALL my drum machines and sounds on a card and it was pointless. So I deleted everything, got some good 808s and 909s, then I went back through all my drum machines and said "okay, I'm only going to put like, 10-20 REEEAAALLY good kicks that I like on my CF card. Then I'll do the same when I find about 10-20 really good snares/claps/hats/etc.". I spent the time taking a select few sounds and running them through outboard gear so I could get exactly what I want. Now I've got like, 100 go to sounds that I know are good and I don't have to waste time trolling through samples. I fire up my MPC, pull some drums out of the 808 or 909 folder, then a few out of my one and only other drum sample folder, and I'm making a beat in less than a minute.

Not only that, but by using the same samples over and over, you begin to develop your own signature sound, but without having to sound the same all the time: yeah, a dozen or so kicks might sound limiting...but the fact that you can put 3 kicks on one pad and change pitch, tuning, filters, envelopes, etc. means you have almost unlimited options. And hey, if it turns into a kick you really like, just resample it and save it for later, then you can edit it and blend it with the others.


Yeah man I feel you. i don't want millions of sounds, to me, it's not the sound but the way you play it.

Like I said, I have +800 house records from the 80s-00s. I just stick my hand in the shelf and pull out a great kick drum that is already processed. Kicks are no problem. It's the hats that really are my problem, because when I sample them off a record they usually have some shit going on that I cannot eq out.

Anyway, I will keep pluggin away, working out my path.
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By richie Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:32 pm
Thanks for the share Wal Martian
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By Coz Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:56 pm
richie wrote:I'll also add that if you're insistent that you purchase a 808 kit online, one decent one is the "Drum Machine Evolution" one, I believe mpc forums member Canedrive put that one together



Cheers for the mention Richie. 8)

The core samples for that pack came from Lampdog's 808, and I then ran with it and processed them through the SP-12, ASR10, reel to reel tape and had them cut to vinyl and resampled them. They were only supposed to be part of my 'Pulse' sample pack but Tutor thought they were good enough for a separate release.

Talking of drums though... I'm starting a House project soon so I thought I'd prepare some drums for it. I picked a bunch of kicks, snares and hi hats, ran them through the SP at different speeds, then ran those stems to tape. I kept all the single hits at various stages, but what started out as a few hundred single hits ended up as 2000 sounds! So much for making things easier! :mrgreen:
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By The Jackal Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:39 am
Wallace wrote:
Yeah man I feel you. i don't want millions of sounds, to me, it's not the sound but the way you play it.

Like I said, I have +800 house records from the 80s-00s. I just stick my hand in the shelf and pull out a great kick drum that is already processed. Kicks are no problem. It's the hats that really are my problem, because when I sample them off a record they usually have some **** going on that I cannot eq out.

Anyway, I will keep pluggin away, working out my path.


Oh dude, tell me about it. If you make any sort of electronic music, you will be locked into an endless pursuit of hats your whole life lol. I don't know why out of everything, those are the hardest to find and get right and that somehow, once you find the right one for your track, it magically glues everything together so well. How it's *just* a hat, yet the time I have to spend getting them just oh so perfect... :WTF:

I cannot recall how many articles/interviews/videos I've come across with established producers bringing them up, or saying they heard someone else hats that made them a bit envious, or just jacking hats they heard elsewhere because they sounded so damn good.

The quest for hats is never-ending :-D
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Re: Anyone tried these?

By richie Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:38 am
@Coz you're welcome man. I thought it would also make more sense to reference a member here for the work they're doing than tell them to get a Beat Butcher kit or something. It's almost overwhelming the amount of access we have online to tools to create music now. I remember back in the 90's when I started and the only "easy" access to drums were the "drum crazy" records or spending months in the pursuit of finding open drums. The first ever sample cds I actually had access to were these "Black beat" akai cds which were not very useful for me at all at and had a lot of wack sounds. Memories.
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