MPC 2.0 Upgrade Price

Living Bate wrote:

Fanu wrote:I'm kind of pooping my pants a little trying to think what the next MPC model will look like...

surely it will be a cross between the touch and the the ren; with the touch screen and and the touch colour screen, with more qlinks.

but its all in the styling and the software of course

MPD MPK RAY wrote:

dustymaestro wrote:Your great, makes me want to get a jam.

iPad Dj?

That scratching is old news, cuttin on turntables is respectable. That stuff you doing is corny.

I started REAL DJing on Technics 1200s fool. I used to son you all thru these forums; I know who you are! We ALL know the MPC Forum TROLL! Useless banter and insults while we in here looking for truth. Go away or post your music.

This for you HATER; whicho dusty old corny music:

You can scratch on any MPC by assigning a scratch sound to note on and using a q link fader to real time tune. On the MPC Touch you can use the XY screen to scratch.

You sound like advertisment...You work for Akai? Ain't nobody trying to do no advanced programming no more! THAT is corny! Go back to the cave wicho Commodore Amiga face azz

Who do you think I am? Mad at what? I have outboard gear worth more than your whole studio. Your a cornball trying to hard. Your video with you yelling hear we go and playing that track made me laugh. You got the nerve to tell somebody else they need a hug? You need a mirror. Advertisement, you sure your not talking about yourself?

Advanced programming? lemme guess your a preset guy that doesn't have skill.

Please.....

Your running up on people with wack shet and old news.

SILIS101 wrote:

aldred411 wrote:

jpeg wrote:Jam looks like a clowns speak and spell; lmao

the look is linked to the functionality and the usability so is not something to be dismissed

I'd like to report a burn.

GOTEEEM! They didn't think you were funny!

And

mrdeenats:

Why you hatin on his set-up?

Wasn't feeling you neither fool.

You a hater stop throwing punches and hiding your hands weirdo. You've been exposed on this site as a bi-polar bunny for a while. You can spend all the money on gear you want. You missed the human hug of a father you girl.

Let's talk about the upgrade. The news I have is important to moving Akai to release. You are a cancer to this site for years. Where are your videos? Where is YOUR music using this new mpc touch or maschine jam? Thought so! Nuff said.

For the record Akai just dropped the ball. This was and is the truth fully programmed and finished.

MPD MPK RAY wrote:For the record Akai just dropped the ball. This was and is the truth fully programmed and finished.

I think there's Youtube videos of Geoff, the Adidas tracksuit guy, shredding with that thing.
BTW Geoff is the MPC "product owner".

Living Bate wrote:

Fanu wrote:I'm kind of pooping my pants a little trying to think what the next MPC model will look like...

Is that a Reactable? Not seen or heard of them in a few years now!

They just came out with a iPad app. Thats where everything is going nowadays. Never forget the Microsoft Surface Table boiled down to a Surface Pad.


but whats up with this?
Oh yeah......THIS happened

We never getting a proper Ableton Live feature list in a Flagship MPC 2.0 are we? They gotta put a full sized iPad Pro screen in the new Akai MPC Touch XL

MPD MPK RAY wrote:They gotta put a full sized iPad Pro screen in the new Akai MPC Touch XL

I agree, the 7" screen gets quite fiddly to use, although IMO a lot of that is purely down to poor design choices from Akai, i.e. tiny on-screen buttons etc.

IMO it would make sense for Akai to hire an organisation which specialises in designing touchscreen interfaces to create the touch UI who can also run proper, controlled usability tests.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

MPD MPK RAY wrote:They gotta put a full sized iPad Pro screen in the new Akai MPC Touch XL

I agree, the 7" screen gets quite fiddly to use, although IMO a lot of that is purely down to poor design choices from Akai, i.e. tiny on-screen buttons etc.

IMO it would make sense for Akai to hire an organisation which specialises in designing touchscreen interfaces to create the touch UI who can also run proper, controlled usability tests.

The last few years I've been thinking they should hire a lot of ppl.

E.g., some serious beatmakers in their team that'd shoot some serious feedback and criticism to Akai who'd then adjust the product that way. I'm talking about some serious beatmakers; not people who work on a beat two hours on Sundays.
When the Ren came out, I was shaking my head at how it could come out in such immature state, missing many essential features, with so many bugs etc. Couldn't help thinking, if they had had people who can get serious with making songs, they would've pointed those out ages ago. PDC being one thing.
And with the Touch, I can't help feeling, did they ask any previous heavy MPC users about the design? There would've been a lot of people saying you can't take away the << < > >> buttons, for example.

Marketing team would be another thing. Remember the vides before the Ren? Premier, Pete Rock – not using the Ren. Alchemist hanging by the beach with the Studio – not using it.
Etc.

I'm in a team for another company doing just that (unpaid work because I love the company and their products), and I'm always as ruthlessly honest as I can, and the feedback for improving the products comes from heavy everyday use. And they do listen and adjust.

Fanu wrote:The last few years I've been thinking they should hire a lot of ppl.
E.g., some serious beatmakers in their team that'd shoot some serious feedback and criticism

I thought they did consult some when designing the Renaissance?.....I'm sure I read they spoke to Q-Tip / Primo / PR?

or did I dream that?

Living Bate wrote:

Fanu wrote:The last few years I've been thinking they should hire a lot of ppl.
E.g., some serious beatmakers in their team that'd shoot some serious feedback and criticism

I thought they did consult some when designing the Renaissance?.....I'm sure I read they spoke to Q-Tip / Primo / PR?

or did I dream that?

I think Ren hardware design is good, and probably some older heads have been consulted on that one.

Living Bate wrote:

Fanu wrote:The last few years I've been thinking they should hire a lot of ppl.
E.g., some serious beatmakers in their team that'd shoot some serious feedback and criticism

I thought they did consult some when designing the Renaissance?.....I'm sure I read they spoke to Q-Tip / Primo / PR?

or did I dream that?

Well, Primo and others are name checked in the software credits, but does anyone actually believe they had any actual input during the development stages, or do they just assume them to be nothing more than paid endorsements?

You don't see these guys actually using these machines - and Ren poster-boy Araabmusik appears to be still rocking his 2500 in all the recent videos I've seen (I believe he sold his free Ren on Ebay years ago).

MPC-Tutor wrote:

Living Bate wrote:

Fanu wrote:The last few years I've been thinking they should hire a lot of ppl.
E.g., some serious beatmakers in their team that'd shoot some serious feedback and criticism

I thought they did consult some when designing the Renaissance?.....I'm sure I read they spoke to Q-Tip / Primo / PR?

or did I dream that?

Well, Primo and others are name checked in the software credits, but does anyone actually believe they had any actual input during the development stages, or do they just assume them to be nothing more than paid endorsements?

You don't see these guys actually using these machines - and Ren poster-boy Araabmusik appears to be still rocking his 2500 in all the recent videos I've seen (I believe he sold his free Ren on Ebay years ago).

There was a pic of Pete Rock in the lab with the Ren, but at least his Instagram videos only show the 2000XL.
Lord Finesse, however, replied to me on IG saying he's using Ableton Live and MPC Ren when I asked whether he's still using MPC 4K. There was a recent Rhythm Roulette video of Large Pro rocking it. K-Def is using one.
I'm wondering why Akai don't visit those guys for a little talk and video...that has always baffled me about their marketing TBH. IMHO, they should've visited the users after the device came out. That would've been way more convincing than paying some veterans before the release to talk about it, look at it, but not use it.
SMFH.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

MPD MPK RAY wrote:They gotta put a full sized iPad Pro screen in the new Akai MPC Touch XL

I agree, the 7" screen gets quite fiddly to use, although IMO a lot of that is purely down to poor design choices from Akai, i.e. tiny on-screen buttons etc.

IMO it would make sense for Akai to hire an organisation which specialises in designing touchscreen interfaces to create the touch UI who can also run proper, controlled usability tests.

say more on this; is it the case that u have fat fingers or is the touch very fiddly in use?

If they made things bigger on the touch UI would it all fit on the screen?

jpeg wrote:say more on this; is this da case that u have fat fingers or is the ouch very fiddly in use?
If they made things bigger would it all fit on the screen?

I believe I have 'medium' fingers. Optimising the Touch UI isn't just about taking the existing design and making everything bigger, it requires a deeper analysis and a rethink of how certain functionality is handled, rather than just trying to cram a desktop UI into a touchscreen UI.

I think 75% of the UI is fine, but there are areas where you feel like you are cracking a safe, you have to be too precise. Some of this might be a limitation of a small screen, some of it might be resolved with an alternative rethink from the ground up of how that particular task could be approached. I wish I had the answers.