Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By Fanu Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:33 pm
jpeg wrote:I think the MPC Legacy sounds more like the traditional MPC form factor; but if the MPC is portable for live use u dont want it being to heave but I get at the same time you want it to feel like a substantial piece of kit and not just an empty box.


AFAIK there isn't any concrete info on the "Legacy" yet, is there?
Rumors spread like wildfire.
By DannyBmpc Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:50 pm
I have to agree... unless your playing live I don't quite see the point of a standalone. The idea of the software is great. I work with hundreds of VST's and I love being able to automate them on the mpc just like I used to be able to do with my 2000 and outboard synths. I also love being able to click one button and export all my stems instead of and 8 out board on my mpc and all my outboard synths into a 16 in computer interface which are not cheap these days. To me they just need to add audio tracks and improve the stability of the software and plugin. The only advantage to me is to maybe take some of the strain off my computer by doing all the mpc processing in the mpc and leave my computer for doing all the vst processing and mixing but I don't think the live will be able to work in both standalone and hybrid mode at the same time.
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By Fanu Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:03 pm
I think to most people the point of a standalone, in addition to being live-capable, is distancing themselves from the computer land for a moment.
E.g., my day job is mixing and mastering music for others, in addition to which I work a ton ITB with my own music. That does make you feel sometimes that you need a break from the computer life but not necessarily from music life.
So, after all that, sometimes it feels really good to mess with something that has nothing to do with a computer: f*cking with my Machinedrum as we speak, I love my SP 1200 and MPC 60, but I'd love to have a standalone device with plenty of _modern_ capabilities.
I'd love to be able to work on something for a while even in my kitchen, heh, just to distance myself from my main desk and workspace.
By DannyBmpc Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:16 pm
Fanu wrote:I think to most people the point of a standalone, in addition to being live-capable, is distancing themselves from the computer land for a moment.
E.g., my day job is mixing and mastering music for others, in addition to which I work a ton ITB with my own music. That does make you feel sometimes that you need a break from the computer life but not necessarily from music life.
So, after all that, sometimes it feels really good to mess with something that has nothing to do with a computer: f*cking with my Machinedrum as we speak, I love my SP 1200 and MPC 60, but I'd love to have a standalone device with plenty of _modern_ capabilities.
I'd love to be able to work on something for a while even in my kitchen, heh, just to distance myself from my main desk and workspace.



While I do understand that with say a guitar or a drum set but with something like an mpc live you are just staring at computer screen and still using a computer its just a built in screen and its a smaller computer. I never made a song in bed and wouldn't really have any desire to. I do get the idea of changing your environment to change your mindset though.

One thing I often ponder is did music production really change when the visual aspect was added. People used to mix with their ears and now they mix with their ears and eyes with visual waves forms. I wonder if some of the creativity is lost when you have a visual reference. For instance on the mpc60 there was no wave form display so you just started the sample when it seemed right. Not at the absolute start of the transient. Sometimes I miss my 2000 for that but I spent an awful lot of time staring at that 2 inch grey screen.
By DannyBmpc Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:37 pm
Fanu wrote:Yeah, not seeing things can be a relief...you listen with your ears/heart instead of looking at it that analytically with your eyes.


Ya I definitely think it has changed the way we feel and create music
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By Lampdog Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:25 pm
DannyBmpc wrote:I never made a song in bed and wouldn't really have any desire to.

+1

DannyBmpc wrote:...no wave form display so you just started the sample when it seemed right.

That contributes HEAVILY to that "magic swing" that many seem to look for.

I was alot more experimental when I ONLY had my ASR10. After I got the 2kxl and built a pc I got lazier and lazier every year it seemed.
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By Fanu Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:32 pm
I literally just watched a Youtube video of someone doing a hip hop beat with Rytm. The snare was loose, almost a bit too loose, but that's probably because you can't see the exact start point with that device either (it's an analog drummachine but it can also play samples). Will be buying a Rytm soon.