Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By jpeg Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:41 pm
think the March date was primarily for the US and maybe Japan.

then Europe is after that; but I suspect UK may get supplies before Finland, and possibly Germany & France will get supplies before the UK.

the above is pure speculation but I never expected one big hit and for these devices to be widely available in March.

Its going to trickle into circulation, Fanu u aint got no chance other than wait unless u spend extra and buy from a US supplier.
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By Danoc Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:51 pm
DON BLAKE:
"Yep this is exactly how I felt. It's as if they are saying that you can use it in standalone mode but why would you. "

I want to use it in standalone because:
1. Squencer in the standalone is superior to that of software.
2. Can transfer files to the computer without the software.
3. Standalone runs on its own without the CPU of s computer interrupting its processor.
4. Dont have to worry about licensing.
5. Don't have to worry about constant updates.
6. JUST PLUG AND PLAY!
7. Ease of mind knowing you can do music without having worry about a computer and looking at a screen.
8. DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATENCY, JITTERS OR QUANTIZING ISSUES!
9. Standalone can be mobile and you can setup in anyones setup.
10. You can sample straight from records and chop your samples in standalone mode the traditional way with a modern twist.

That's some of the reasons l will use it i. Standalone.
By jpeg Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:13 pm
Danoc wrote:DON BLAKE:
"Yep this is exactly how I felt. It's as if they are saying that you can use it in standalone mode but why would you. "

I want to use it in standalone because:
1. Squencer in the standalone is superior to that of software.
2. Can transfer files to the computer without the software.
3. Standalone runs on its own without the CPU of s computer interrupting its processor.
4. Dont have to worry about licensing.
5. Don't have to worry about constant updates.
6. JUST PLUG AND PLAY!
7. Ease of mind knowing you can do music without having worry about a computer and looking at a screen.
8. DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATENCY, JITTERS OR QUANTIZING ISSUES!


some selected responses

1. what evidence do u have to support the sequencer is better; both standalone and controller mode run the same software.

3. Most CPU's today are powerful enuff to where any interrupts are un-noticed by the end user.

4. Currently using the sutdio black and from using the silver studio I never worried about the licnese.

5. Updates are a minor they are not constant and very quick and easy to do

6.with the controller its also plug and play the setup of the software is so quick and simple

8.I have never seen any latency,jitters or quantize issue in the software so this also suggests that there is some config issue with ur computer.
By Don Blake Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:02 pm
Danoc wrote:DON BLAKE:
"Yep this is exactly how I felt. It's as if they are saying that you can use it in standalone mode but why would you. "

I want to use it in standalone because:
1. Squencer in the standalone is superior to that of software.
2. Can transfer files to the computer without the software.
3. Standalone runs on its own without the CPU of s computer interrupting its processor.
4. Dont have to worry about licensing.
5. Don't have to worry about constant updates.
6. JUST PLUG AND PLAY!
7. Ease of mind knowing you can do music without having worry about a computer and looking at a screen.
8. DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATENCY, JITTERS OR QUANTIZING ISSUES!
9. Standalone can be mobile and you can setup in anyones setup.
10. You can sample straight from records and chop your samples in standalone mode the traditional way with a modern twist.

That's some of the reasons l will use it i. Standalone.


Sorry let me clarify myself here. I'm a big standalone user . I own a 1000, 2000, and a 4000. I hate software controllers. I am not at all questioning why you would use one.

What I'm saying is that akai seem to be saying that using a standalone limits you. They are suggesting that its a challenge to use a standalone mpc.
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By Ill-Green Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:14 pm
jpeg wrote:
Danoc wrote:DON BLAKE:
"Yep this is exactly how I felt. It's as if they are saying that you can use it in standalone mode but why would you. "

I want to use it in standalone because:
1. Squencer in the standalone is superior to that of software.
2. Can transfer files to the computer without the software.
3. Standalone runs on its own without the CPU of s computer interrupting its processor.
4. Dont have to worry about licensing.
5. Don't have to worry about constant updates.
6. JUST PLUG AND PLAY!
7. Ease of mind knowing you can do music without having worry about a computer and looking at a screen.
8. DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH LATENCY, JITTERS OR QUANTIZING ISSUES!


some selected responses

1. what evidence do u have to support the sequencer is better; both standalone and controller mode run the same software.

3. Most CPU's today are powerful enuff to where any interrupts are un-noticed by the end user.

4. Currently using the sutdio black and from using the silver studio I never worried about the licnese.

5. Updates are a minor they are not constant and very quick and easy to do

6.with the controller its also plug and play the setup of the software is so quick and simple

8.I have never seen any latency,jitters or quantize issue in the software so this also suggests that there is some config issue with ur computer.

1-latency :vomit:

You have the Touch, you should know :smoker:
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By starmanwarz Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:19 pm
pspsounds wrote:For me I just don't want to look at the computer screen anymore, latency or not. I'm looking for an updated mpc1000/2500 with modern features and it appears the Live and X does that.


Yep, I agree. The new MPCs should be a huge upgrade for us on older machines. Sold my 2500 and leaning towards the X, really excited although I am gonna wait for some reviews/user videos before I fully make up my mind.
By willisill Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:29 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:IMO the problem is that these guys are not really doing anything that shows off the unique selling points of the actual product. What he did in that video could be done with anything, even a basic iPad app. He says it was so 'crazy', but, really? 'Crazy' is watching one of those early Jeremy Ellis Maschine promo videos. Akai do not appear to be selecting these guys based on their performance skills. I would love to see them give the Live to someone like Tim Kroker, David Haynes or Fresh Kils.



Give them a week with it and see what they can come up with to show off what's capable. But to be fair, I don't think we are target audience for this type of endorsement video, we had the NAMM interviews and the Sonic State stuff. But as the product is still obviously not finished yet, I don't think we're going to see any really juicy demos until until it's actually released.


I don't even need a Jeremy Ellis finger drumming masterclass (even though that would be dope), I was just like "wtf is going on" like 2 and half minutes in to this latest video lol. Dude was just chopping a sample at its loop point so he had the same sound on 4 pads, then zooms in on the waveform and just kinda nudges it back and forth like he was encountering some alien technology for the first time. You gotta laugh at the cinematic intro leading to this bs. I'm not knocking it from some "me beats are so much better, bruv" standpoint, I'm just shaking my head that someone at Akai was like "f**k yeah! this will get these kids hyped!" The sounds aren't even synced at the end of the video lol. It doesn't take a marketing genius to watch this and say, "wow this video sucks."
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By Ill-Green Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:29 pm
starmanwarz wrote:
pspsounds wrote:For me I just don't want to look at the computer screen anymore, latency or not. I'm looking for an updated mpc1000/2500 with modern features and it appears the Live and X does that.


Yep, I agree. The new MPCs should be a huge upgrade for us on older machines. Sold my 2500 and leaning towards the X, really excited although I am gonna wait for some reviews/user videos before I fully make up my mind.

Me too, sold my MPC500 and preordered a Live. My first portable sampler was a Roland MS-1 and I upgraded to the 500, now I'll be upgrading to the Live for supreme portability :mrgreen:

Think I'm gonna make another album all within the Live, standalone too :smoker:
By jpeg Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:48 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:Whenever i start a new project there is no latency. Latency starts to kick in once the VST's/VSTi's starts to hog the CPU..


u might have a shit PC or a good PC poorly configured as I have run multiple vst with no latency
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By Danoc Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:50 pm
jpeg wrote:
some selected responses

1. what evidence do u have to support the sequencer is better; both standalone and controller mode run the same software.
Answer: My own Experience and the experience of others, like last night for example. I made a drum pattern and had to fix the midi notes and in a certain section it didn't flip right so I had to take off the squencer then replay that section. On the MPC stand alone you don't have to go through all that. It's been proven time and time again the squencers in the DAW are not up to par and deal with latency issues. Please don't tell me fix the reso blah blah, been there done that, That's where evidence.
More evidence, I'm not alone, Here's a guy saying the same thing I been saying. He saiys nothing beats the sequencer of the MPC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eKBmnf3JIc&t=266s

3. Most CPU's today are powerful enuff to where any interrupts are un-noticed by the end user.
Answer: when I said the CPU basically I meant all the latency processing etc yada yada!

4. Currently using the sutdio black and from using the silver studio I never worried about the licnese.
Answer: I am talking about licenses in the general sense from all my other software sound sources. But didn't you have to get an activation up for the software?

5. Updates are a minor they are not constant and very quick and easy to do
Answer: Dude, I am sick of updating over and over week after week, month after month. I want a hardware stand alone I don't have to worry at all. It's not minor to YOU, but it is to ME. Its not about being easy dude, it's about remembering, you gotta do this update and that update. With hardware or stand alone you don't have to WORRY about THAT at ALL!

6.with the controller its also plug and play the setup of the software is so quick and simple
Answer: Again talking about ME, with my software modules with sounds verses stand alone plug and play and rock. I was very clear what I want a stand alone for, it's not about you and YOUR wants.

8.I have never seen any latency,jitters or quantize issue in the software so this also suggests that there is some config issue with ur computer.
Answer: Absolutely not! There's nothing wrong with my computer I have a powerful computer, Jay Josh even when he does his production on Youtube, his notes are slightly off and he fix them, he doesn't complain but why go through that? So It's not just me going through this, I wish you guys would get this.



1. Answer: My own Experience and the experience of others, like last night for example. I made a drum pattern and had to fix the midi notes and in a certain section it didn't flip right so I had to take off the squencer then replay that section. On the MPC stand alone you don't have to go through all that. It's been proven time and time again the squencers in the DAW are not up to par and deal with latency issues. Please don't tell me fix the reso blah blah, been there done that, That's where evidence.
More evidence, I'm not alone, Here's a guy saying the same thing I been saying. He saiys nothing beats the sequencer of the MPC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eKBmnf3JIc&t=266s

3. Answer: when I said the CPU basically I meant all the latency processing etc yada yada!

4.Answer: I am talking about licenses in the general sense from all my other software sound sources. But didn't you have to get an activation up for the software?

5. Answer: Dude, I am sick of updating over and over week after week, month after month. I want a hardware stand alone I don't have to worry at all. It's not minor to YOU, but it is to ME. Its not about being easy dude, it's about remembering, you gotta do this update and that update. With hardware or stand alone you don't have to WORRY about THAT at ALL!

6. Answer: Again talking about ME, with my software modules with sounds verses stand alone plug and play and rock. I was very clear what I want a stand alone for, it's not about you and YOUR wants.

8. Answer: Absolutely not! There's nothing wrong with my computer I have a powerful computer, Jay Josh even when he does his production on Youtube, his notes are slightly off and he fix them, he doesn't complain but why go through that? So It's not just me going through this, I wish you guys would get this.

I'am getting the X, and it will solve my problems. If YOU'RE good don't worry about ME! I'm good! now back to our regular programming!
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By Fanu Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:13 pm
jpeg wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:Whenever i start a new project there is no latency. Latency starts to kick in once the VST's/VSTi's starts to hog the CPU..


u might have a **** PC or a good PC poorly configured as I have run multiple vst with no latency


With the Ren/Touch? The software does not compensate for the latency caused by plugins.
Even the early version of 2.0 probably won't, as Pete confirmed on Twitter it has not been addressed.
A crying shame.