Official: Akai Force Topic

Unreallystic wrote:but is the MPC X going to be the pinnacle for only a year longer? Are they going to re-approach the hardware with an MK2 with better specs?

Products like this tend to have a 3 year cycle, so regardless of what else they are putting out you would have to assume the MPC X and MPC Live are going to be replaced in 2020 or at the very least something new will come out either this year or next that will tempt you away from these older machines. Akai are full of surprises, so I wouldn't like to expend too much energy guessing what that might be - it could be a simple hardware upgrade, or it could be something more intriguing.

Always something new coming, either from Akai or from other manufacturers, so not sure it's feasible to keep holding back on purchasing. Also remember that most products these days take quite some time to iron out the bugs and issues, so even if something gets released in 6 months time it might not be wise to purchase it straight away.

Remember Ableton offered a discounted trade-in when they brought out Push 2, so would expect something similar should push 3 ever materialise.

BTW, I was never tempted by the X, seems excessively priced considering it's running the same underlying computing power as the Live. IMO the flagship should have more memory, more storage, faster processor etc.

I just migrated to MPC after being a long term maschine user after becoming a bit jaded by native instruments attitude toward development and customer interaction, it seems to me that it's pretty much the ideal time to be coming on board, there's genuine meaningful improvement being made to the product line and you can't really fault the way Akai appear to be all in for customer contact.. glad I made the switch when I did..

Don't get excited about the the Force until you see a video with Geoff and Pete. History with the Ren and Live has shown us this is when the product features are ready for primetime.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

Unreallystic wrote:but is the MPC X going to be the pinnacle for only a year longer? Are they going to re-approach the hardware with an MK2 with better specs?

Products like this tend to have a 3 year cycle, so regardless of what else they are putting out you would have to assume the MPC X and MPC Live are going to be replaced in 2020 or at the very least something new will come out either this year or next that will tempt you away from these older machines. Akai are full of surprises, so I wouldn't like to expend too much energy guessing what that might be - it could be a simple hardware upgrade, or it could be something more intriguing.

Always something new coming, either from Akai or from other manufacturers, so not sure it's feasible to keep holding back on purchasing. Also remember that most products these days take quite some time to iron out the bugs and issues, so even if something gets released in 6 months time it might not be wise to purchase it straight away.

Remember Ableton offered a discounted trade-in when they brought out Push 2, so would expect something similar should push 3 ever materialise.

BTW, I was never tempted by the X, seems excessively priced considering it's running the same underlying computing power as the Live. IMO the flagship should have more memory, more storage, faster processor etc.

They will discontinue X and make a 4gb Live.
At the end of this year or beginning of next.
Prophecy

In the end who cares?? Thats how it goes..

Playstation 1, Playstation 2, PS3, 4 and so on..

As long as they implement the promised features in 2019 there shouldn’t be any complains.

I don’t expect my X to be the flagship model for ever. I just want it to do the things that I need it to do.

And if Akai launches the X-2 and Live-2 I wont jump on that ship if I don’t need it.

That’s something Apple fanboys do..

zangetsu01 wrote:In the end who cares?? Thats how it goes..

Playstation 1, Playstation 2, PS3, 4 and so on..

As long as they implement the promised features in 2019 there shouldn’t be any complains.

I don’t expect my X to be the flagship model for ever. I just want it to do the things that I need it to do.

And if Akai launches the X-2 and Live-2 I wont jump on that ship if I don’t need it.

That’s something Apple fanboys do..

Yes same here.
I am fine with my Live, I don't use audio tracks so I don't care much about more Ram or disc streaming.
Just new fx and synths excite me, for the rest I have nothing to complain.
On my Mac I used 10.10 and never upgraded anymore. Now it's on a bag, silent, taking a long nap.

THE HELL DID AKAI DO! That's why they couldn't get the MPC live/X working right, their asses been working on this! Freakin Time stretch is awwwwwwwwssssssssommmmmmmmeee! crap!

They have the Air Effects in it! This is not freakin fair! This is crazy. taking 2 steps to do something, awwwwwwwh man this ain't right! I would trade my Live in if it wasn't for the 64 pads, I don't like those pads. I like banging on normal size pads, and now this is truly a stand alone. I wonder how many people will trade in their Live/X?
Tape stop too? Im really really Sun Hot pissed

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Danoc wrote:They have the Air Effects in it! This is not freakin fair!

AIR FX coming to MPC 2.4, pretty much confirmed by Dan.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh MY GAWD! Thank you, I can do my drums right there in the MPC using the Air Effects. I wonder when 2.4 is coming.

MPC-Tutor wrote:

Danoc wrote:They have the Air Effects in it! This is not freakin fair!

AIR FX coming to MPC 2.4, pretty much confirmed by Dan.

Danoc wrote::WTF: THE HELL DID AKAI DO! That's why they couldn't get the MPC live/X working right, their asses been working on this! Freakin Time stretch is awwwwwwwwssssssssommmmmmmmeee! ****!

They have the Air Effects in it! This is not freakin fair! This is crazy. taking 2 steps to do something, awwwwwwwh man this ain't right! I would trade my Live in if it wasn't for the 64 pads, I don't like those pads. I like banging on normal size pads, and now this is truly a stand alone. I wonder how many people will trade in their Live/X?
Tape stop too? Im really really Sun Hot pissed

This is there current release cycle. I say, sit tight and once you PC come in. You'll forget about the AIR Effects. The Force will have many people selling the MPC X and Live because it matches their work flow. That's when you buy a X. Hold tight!

MPC Renaissance 2012
MPC Touch 2015
MPC LIve /X 2017
Akai Force 2019
Next MPC? 2020?

So I am checking the Akai site out and come across "HYPE" dammmmmmmm I hope we get this as MPC Live/X users!

Yo, this is crazy. Akai might shake up the industry a bit, what you think?
Nah man I know my new computer is coming but remember I do my drums on the MPC mostly but still rock drums in Reason, So I have two ways to rock. Oh and I can do my drums in Studio One 3.5.6 but I love the flow in Reason also. I want those Air effects so I can apply them to my drums right there and export and import into Reason and go BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! LOL

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Danoc wrote::WTF: THE HELL DID AKAI DO! That's why they couldn't get the MPC live/X working right, their asses been working on this! Freakin Time stretch is awwwwwwwwssssssssommmmmmmmeee! ****!

They have the Air Effects in it! This is not freakin fair! This is crazy. taking 2 steps to do something, awwwwwwwh man this ain't right! I would trade my Live in if it wasn't for the 64 pads, I don't like those pads. I like banging on normal size pads, and now this is truly a stand alone. I wonder how many people will trade in their Live/X?
Tape stop too? Im really really Sun Hot pissed

This is there current release cycle. I say, sit tight and once you PC come in. You'll forget about the AIR Effects. The Force will have many people selling the MPC X and Live because it matches their work flow. That's when you buy and X. Hold tight!

MPC Renaissance 2012
MPC Touch 2015
MPC LIve /X 2017
Akai Force 2019
Next MPC? 2020?

$150 BUCKS vs $1500
https://www.airmusictech.com/product/cr ... ction-plus

Danoc wrote::lol: Yo, this is crazy. Akai might shake up the industry a bit, what you think?
Nah man I know my new computer is coming but remember I do my drums on the MPC mostly but still rock drums in Reason, So I have two ways to rock. Oh and I can do my drums in Studio One 3.5.6 but I love the flow in Reason also. I want those Air effects so I can apply them to my drums right there and export and import into Reason and go BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! LOL

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU?

VS FREE!!! LOL I have Xpand and Hybrid 3 on my main computer. Now you know I am not going to spend $1500 for a new product from Akai, ain't no way. But $50 is nice. But I just want them on the MPC Live.

Bro I got the dopest 3rd Party Pro effects already. Waves being the top ones. LOL

CharlesRandolph wrote:$50 BUCKS vs $1500
https://www.airmusictech.com/product/cr ... ction-plus

Danoc wrote::lol: Yo, this is crazy. Akai might shake up the industry a bit, what you think?
Nah man I know my new computer is coming but remember I do my drums on the MPC mostly but still rock drums in Reason, So I have two ways to rock. Oh and I can do my drums in Studio One 3.5.6 but I love the flow in Reason also. I want those Air effects so I can apply them to my drums right there and export and import into Reason and go BOOOOOOOOOOOOM! LOL