Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By EnochLight Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:26 pm
Danoc wrote:Peace everyone , l just got in. 7:30 am from the major stoo. Funny story involving the MPC live.

So l got hired to do drum programming for a producer for an artist up and coming. The reason l got hired was because a 25 year old didn't know how to properly use his MPC Live :shock: .

The studio engineer told the manager l am a beast on the drum programming. So the producer's manager came met me and we got in with the bizz. Now they had a producer who was suppose to do the drum programming but the producer said his programming is off. Now they paid dude basically for nothing. So they needed a bonified programmer.

So the other programmer pulls out his MPC live and started playing his drums to the producer's track. It was a horrid mess. I cringed :shock: The music was nice but it just needed drums. I told him there is no way he is on the MPC live and his drums sound distorted and out of synch. He had the nerve to say that's my style. He had an attitude when he said it. I just turned aound pulled out my MPC live and he was in shock :shock:

I unplugged his crap and plugged mines in and it was fuc***in go time! I setup my drums on the pads and l told Jim turn on the music. I listened like 8 bars then told jim stop the track. I got the bpm and went in. Took me 10 seconds to kill it. Gave it nice levels. Exported it for Protools. Hit play and it was ova! The manager was noddin that head and snappin that neck. I hit stop and looked at homie. He asked how did l do that and so quick, l said
SKILLS.

Wanna be a smart ass l will show you better than l can tell you. The manager called the producer who is also 25 and told him he needs to get there stat! He shows up 30 minutes later, l played the track and he was like, "YO YOU THAT DUDE YOU MADE MY TRACK HARD!" The manager told the other programmer he needed to intern under me. I put a stop to that. Told them lm not in the business of teaching lm ready to work.

At that moment the producer said, you need to be on my team. Long story short dude got let go, we got out those split sheets and it was go time. So l played a few of my tracks l did with the females and they were like dammm. The manager didn't know l could produce too. Jim told him he asked for a drum programmer. So the manager slid me a few duckets. I was in the stoo all nite putting ideas together and working on my stuff. I had fun, and once l get that CME its gonna be on and poppin!


That was great; thanks for sharing! Question: you get your stuff on contract/signed so there's no chance of you getting screwed over?
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By bees80 Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:33 pm
I am always amazed about how many people out there trying to do music but have no clue or idea what the hell they are doing :) Let stand, they can't even read a manual properly (but i guess that's a bout 99% of all the people that come to the forums too). Not to be a hater, it's just is what it is.

But good for you Danoc, hope you can get some $ of this!
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:18 pm
Yes sir! To old in the game not to know the bizz.
That's the first thing l do before l start to work.
I worked in a law firm and studied many facets of law but l personally studied entertainment law to understand the language. I keep contracts on me and can edit them on the fly if need be. A producer's contract should be no more than six pages. With this project it's NON-EXCLUSIVE contract. Get those split sheets right and contract.

EnochLight wrote:
That was great; thanks for sharing! Question: you get your stuff on contract/signed so there's no chance of you getting screwed over?
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By Lampdog Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:23 pm
Show, prove, get paid.
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:33 pm
Yo Bees you told some truth. I hated to do lil homie like that but he had to learn the hard way. Manager told me that duded bluffed his way to get hundreds from him. I saud nothing and kept my mouth closed.

I have no problem if you don't know how to play one instrument but gawd dam know some music theory, at least the foundations of it, gosh. Its like they got the dam music coronavirus or summin!
I was listening to 2 producers one day, one of them was good but he kept looping the track. He would take out certain instruments as drops. NO GAWD DAM BRIDGE! !!!!!!! I asked him, " WHERE'S THE BRIDGE?" he said "HUH"? I was -----> :WTF: no B-Section/Pre-Chorus.
They have it to easy and they are musically LAZY AF!
We have dope tools they are to enhance your talents not make you think they do the music for you.

Thanks.

bees80 wrote:I am always amazed about how many people out there trying to do music but have no clue or idea what the hell they are doing :) Let stand, they can't even read a manual properly (but i guess that's a bout 99% of all the people that come to the forums too). Not to be a hater, it's just is what it is.

But good for you Danoc, hope you can get some $ of this!
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:34 pm
Lampdog wrote:Show, prove, get paid.
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By bees80 Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:40 pm
Danoc wrote:Yo Bees you told some truth. I hated to do lil homie like that but he had to learn the hard way. Manager told me that duded bluffed his way to get hundreds from him. I saud nothing and kept my mouth closed.


Wow. That guy might experience it to be negative, but somebody telling you the truth on how it is actually helps to improve and look at yourself critically. You just have to be open for it..

Now y'all know the reason i'm such an a-hole all the time :nod:
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:45 pm
Guys get the MPC don't know what the hell they are doing, come flying in here, not to Akai, breaking their machine. Doing all types of ish.
THEY DON'T WANNA READ THE MANUAL AT ALL! Come to find some can't read. Don't wanna learn but wanna be a mogul. Smh

Their math is terrible, when you're doing music you need to know your tools. Dealing with reverbs and delays etc you use math to get the preceived conclusion. One young guy asked how do l get my kick to not clash with my bass cause his was muddy and distorted. A lot of young cats will try tocover that crap up by saying they like it like that. Bullsh**

So l told homie how to do it and use a lil math on the kick and how to cut frequencies. Eager to learn l help, those lazy cats l keep quiet.
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:48 pm
:lol:

It was done to me when l was a shorty but l git that knowledge and ran wit it. :)

bees80 wrote:
Now y'all know the reason i'm such an a-hole all the time :nod:
By CharlesRandolph Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:49 pm
Danoc wrote::lol:
It was done to me when l was a shorty but l git that knowledge and ran wit it. :)


Same here. People are way too in their feelings. They think they know everything and don't want to be critiqued. They want an opinion, talk like they know it all, but when you asked them to demonstrate or listen to their music it's no where near all their big talk. They talk a good game, but can't play one.
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By bees80 Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:05 pm
Danoc wrote:Guys get the MPC don't know what the hell they are doing, come flying in here, not to Akai, breaking their machine. Doing all types of ish.
THEY DON'T WANNA READ THE MANUAL AT ALL! Come to find some can't read. Don't wanna learn but wanna be a mogul. Smh

Their math is terrible, when you're doing music you need to know your tools. Dealing with reverbs and delays etc you use math to get the preceived conclusion. One young guy asked how do l get my kick to not clash with my bass cause his was muddy and distorted. A lot of young cats will try tocover that **** up by saying they like it like that. Bullsh**

So l told homie how to do it and use a lil math on the kick and how to cut frequencies. Eager to learn l help, those lazy cats l keep quiet.


Danoc, i assume your also a bit older then 25 :) I feel it's maybe a time/age thing that we live in too. Making music is made so terribly simple, that so many people without any knowledge or time to put in are doing it.

I remember being a 14 year old kid (20 years ago) trying to figure out fruityloops and then reason, where i made my first beat.. there were hardly any tutorials on how to do anything, just a bit here and there and some older dudes that show you a couple of things. Before getting an mpc at 17, i chop suyed that mf-in manual at least 3 times. Whenever i get a nieuwe piece of equipment, i still do that. The real interest has to come from within and the eagerness to learn.

jeez i'm prophetic today.
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By bees80 Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:05 pm
CharlesRandolph wrote:
Danoc wrote::lol:
It was done to me when l was a shorty but l git that knowledge and ran wit it. :)


Same here. People are way too in their feelings. They think they know everything and don't want to be critiqued. They want an opinion, talk like they know it all, but when you asked them to demonstrate or listen to their music it's no where near all their big talk. They talk a good game, but can't play one.


it's the bold old boring ego thing. Won't and will not ever work in the studio.
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:39 pm
You know why? Cause they think you can be a hit producer iver night and get millions, and their friends done told them THAT SH.T HARD AS FUGG, LISTEN TO THOSE 808S" whuch is distorted like a mug.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
Same here. People are way too in their feelings. They think they know everything and don't want to be critiqued. They want an opinion, talk like they know it all, but when you asked them to demonstrate or listen to their music it's no where near all their big talk. They talk a good game, but can't play one.
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By Danoc Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:44 pm
Yeah lm older than 25, early 40s. And you know what? IM STILL LEARNING! I focus deeply when l read or playung around with a new toy. I hate with a passion when someone disturbs me talking about some nonsensical crap :evil:

bees80 wrote:Danoc, i assume your also a bit older then 25 :) I feel it's maybe a time/age thing that we live in too. Making music is made so terribly simple, that so many people without any knowledge or time to put in are doing it.

I remember being a 14 year old kid (20 years ago) trying to figure out fruityloops and then reason, where i made my first beat.. there were hardly any tutorials on how to do anything, just a bit here and there and some older dudes that show you a couple of things. Before getting an mpc at 17, i chop suyed that mf-in manual at least 3 times. Whenever i get a nieuwe piece of equipment, i still do that. The real interest has to come from within and the eagerness to learn.

jeez i'm prophetic today.