Akai's FCC submission for the MPC Live Mk II

Lumi wrote:If the soc is identical, one with 2gb and the other with 4gb of Ram, what could be the problem?
Same cpu, same soc.
So it should work exactly in the same way. Am I wrong?

eclipxe wrote:

Lumi wrote:If the soc is identical, one with 2gb and the other with 4gb of Ram, what could be the problem?
Same cpu, same soc.
So it should work exactly in the same way. Am I wrong?

Just because the SOC is the same doesn't mean the software can use it directly - nor does it mean the performance profile, power profile, etc are the same. The software will need to be updated to address the extra memory and there might be some optimizations that make assumptions about the memory size that aren't easy to change (for example memory locations stored with a certain variable type with size limits).

Lumi wrote:Ah ok I see.
It makes sense.
But if I understood correctly, Akai bought the soc from a failed company that produced them for cellphones, in 2gb and 4gb stocks.
So they should have bought also the 4gb stock and sooner or later they will use them.

Lumi wrote:Ah ok I see.
It makes sense.
But if I understood correctly, Akai bought the soc from a failed company that produced them for cellphones, in 2gb and 4gb stocks.
So they should have bought also the 4gb stock and sooner or later they will use them.

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EnochLight wrote:

Lumi wrote:Ah ok I see.
It makes sense.
But if I understood correctly, Akai bought the soc from a failed company that produced them for cellphones, in 2gb and 4gb stocks.
So they should have bought also the 4gb stock and sooner or later they will use them.

You're completely skipping over the part that releasing a 4GB version could fracture their user-base and Expansion market, for the reasons already described. Surely this must have something to do with it, yes?

Additionally, one could surmise that the 4GB parts did in fact cost more, and when the bottom line in hardware manufacturing counts, Akai may have deemed the difference in cost too great to keep the MPC line profitable. They're a hardware manufacturer, after all.

EnochLight wrote:

Lumi wrote:Ah ok I see.
It makes sense.
But if I understood correctly, Akai bought the soc from a failed company that produced them for cellphones, in 2gb and 4gb stocks.
So they should have bought also the 4gb stock and sooner or later they will use them.

You're completely skipping over the part that releasing a 4GB version could fracture their user-base and Expansion market, for the reasons already described. Surely this must have something to do with it, yes?

Additionally, one could surmise that the 4GB parts did in fact cost more, and when the bottom line in hardware manufacturing counts, Akai may have deemed the difference in cost too great to keep the MPC line profitable. They're a hardware manufacturer, after all.

Lumi wrote:Maybe they keep 4gb soc to be ahead when some other company put same amount on some new sampler.

Tabletop wrote:
Idk... Does a computer company fracture their user base with different models with different (4g, 8g, 16g) memory?
And yeah, they cost more, but not THAT much more when sold huge numbers. Akai would/could have charged more for the MPC units too, and made more money.
I think most of us wouldve GLADLY paid +$100 more if it had more memory. I dont have a problem maxing out memory, but it has happened before, still, it would be nice to have it there imo...

Tabletop wrote:

EnochLight wrote:You're completely skipping over the part that releasing a 4GB version could fracture their user-base and Expansion market, for the reasons already described. Surely this must have something to do with it, yes?

Additionally, one could surmise that the 4GB parts did in fact cost more, and when the bottom line in hardware manufacturing counts, Akai may have deemed the difference in cost too great to keep the MPC line profitable. They're a hardware manufacturer, after all.

Idk... Does a computer company fracture their user base with different models with different (4g, 8g, 16g) memory?
And yeah, they cost more, but not THAT much more when sold huge numbers. Akai would/could have charged more for the MPC units too, and made more money.
I think most of us wouldve GLADLY paid +$100 more if it had more memory. I dont have a problem maxing out memory, but it has happened before, still, it would be nice to have it there imo...

Lumi wrote:I really don't think it would be 100 dollars more.
The difference of price between the 2gb and 4gb soc is much less then 100 dollars for sure.
Maybe even 20 dollars or so.
I think that Enoch is right, it's just to keep the line of Mpc at same level and maybe also avoiding e reprogramming of buffers etc.
But sooner or later they will upgrade all the line for sure.
And I am still not sure about disc streaming will be this magical touch everybody talk about.
It's somehow critical to use an HD or SSd for that, the current data transfer from mpc to hd or ssd is slow, if you read the specs.
And it could be difficult maybe to implement on Mpc architecture, otherwise it would be already available.
I think Akai is just keeping the 4gb soc for future improvements.

Lumi wrote:
I think Akai is just keeping the 4gb soc for future improvements.