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By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:56 am
Danoc wrote:The Bob joint didn't call for that. I went for that yard feel. 62bpm wouldn't have made no sense going fast. I just went how l knew from being in NYC at the Jamaican yard jams. At 120 bpm and being funk oh hell yeah l had to go there lol l hit a mistake in the guitar and ended up sounding dope haha.
Some times mistakes make hits.


At 62 bpm that style of playing is much easier. But at uptempo 156 and up, I don't have the professionals chops to not hack it together.
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By Danoc Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:05 am
With the Bib joint my musical mind wasn't even there.

You could do it in chops and use your DAW's comping feature. That's a great hack.

CharlesRandolph wrote:
Danoc wrote:The Bob joint didn't call for that. I went for that yard feel. 62bpm wouldn't have made no sense going fast. I just went how l knew from being in NYC at the Jamaican yard jams. At 120 bpm and being funk oh hell yeah l had to go there lol l hit a mistake in the guitar and ended up sounding dope haha.
Some times mistakes make hits.


At 62 bpm that style of playing is much easier. But at uptempo 156 and up, I don't have the professionals chops to not hack it together.
By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:13 am
Danoc wrote:With the Bib joint my musical mind wasn't even there.
You could do it in chops and use your DAW's comping feature. That's a great hack.


It's hard to chop together a cohesive keyboard solo and maintain natural playing style, especially playing arpeggios. Personally, I don't like recording or tracking by hacking things together. Nevertheless, when are releasing the track, because there's no way you made it just for this challenge.
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By Danoc Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:21 am
CharlesRandolph wrote:
It's hard to chop together a cohesive keyboard solo and maintain natural playing style, especially playing arpeggios. Personally, I don't like recording or tracking by hacking things together. Nevertheless, when are releasing the track, because there's no way you made it just for this challenge.


Me releasing it? I'll keep it in my catalog, no one comes looking for Electro Funk like that. To be real l was hoping it would be ok l did my best and not everyone will like my best. My last track is in a biding war. So.... I just let my attorney handle that. Heck lm trying to get at least 2 days where l don't do any music and just sleep.
By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:39 am
Danoc wrote:Me releasing it? I'll keep it in my catalog, no one comes looking for Electro Funk like that. To be real l was hoping it would be ok l did my best and not everyone will like my best. My last track is in a biding war. So.... I just let my attorney handle that. Heck lm trying to get at least 2 days where l don't do any music and just sleep.



So you rather post it here, instead of releasing it? Come on man, put that joint out.
By Cockdiesel Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:03 am
Went with bees. I think he had the perfect fit for this challenge. It was a hard call with charles. I dug the vibe on charles' track the most but bees really came with genre and polished sound. It was so close for me though. on one hand charles came with a raw gritty sound and the vibe to go with it, then bees on the other had something that was cleaner, and still ticked the boxes.

tao- I like that your style shines through between the different genres. You seem so calculated in your description, yet your vibe is more of an organized chaos (in my mind), thats not a negative. just very far from the way I organize my ideas. I dig your avant guard style.

e- I see the angle you were coming from. I think its great you stepped out of your comfort zone and actually challenged yourself instead of stacking the deck against us. The vibe I get is more middle school dance then a breaker boy track. I dig the nostalgic feel mixed up with a modern vibe.

danoc- your ish was hott man. just didn't tick the boxes for me with a breakdance track. I was waiting for you to say "you dropped the bomb on me", meander into a g thang groove, or someone shout " WORD UP". its like the track could take so many turns and really shows your abilities beyond making lindsey lohan beats. Great work.

myself- I get the red jock strap award. I wasn't going to submit anything as I really didnt get beyond the 4 bars you hear repeating with the 2 chords and an arp. I replaced the arp with just poking around on the keys added the little break at the end and just submitted. I spent more time mixing the 8 tracks or whatever than I did making it. I did however get to trouble shoot my workflow on the new os and get to work on mixing some. Which I notice I need to come cleaner and more refined. Hopefully yall can offer some pointers, I know some of it is the sample selection I chose.

Nice work everyone. I think bees really came out and made a first impression. Hopefully he continues to roll with these.
By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:14 am
E: I enjoyed your track, maybe a little to smooth for Electro Funk. Get those drums up in the mix and perhaps adds some effects to space it out, in your own way. But as always it Top Quality!

Cockdiesel and Near Tao: Your tracks not really touching genre, but I do hear an improvement
every challenge and that's what counts. Electro funk is really dancer driven, the music needs to make people get out there and jam. Bboys and Bgirls can but they really don't dance to this. It's more a popper, robot, strutter, style of music. Near Tao, you have the idea on paper, I just would like to hear that translated in the music. You're all cerebral, we need more freestyle and FUNK!

CD: Practice recreating this drum pattern. Don't loop it or sample it. Just listen to it and match it. Get this down and you're on your way. Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dt1dwt12xt5i6 ... m.wav?dl=0

DANOC: If you're going to be in this challenge, we need to hear "YOUR" music. Bob Marley was you, but I do not believe this is your track. Based off of all the other songs, you've submitted. Same thing goes for the MOTOWN inspired track. Keep it 100 or don't participate.

Myself: Finalized mix being worked on, Changing up the main drums, Removing some of layers to open it up.
I appreciate the honest feedback theses are the notes I take with me. Ears open, no ego!

Bees80: Represent the Electro Funk genre very well. I enjoyed the groove and the openness of the mix and the selection of instruments were spot on. Also, this challenge was right in your pocket, I await the selection of the next Genre, let keep switching it up. I vote for BEES80!

1. Motown
2. Reggae
3. Electro Funk
4. N/A
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By Danoc Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:07 am
Lmao :lol: .Ok CharlesRandolph would you like me to make 2 more Funk tracks to please you? You really don't understand my talents. I can go from Pop to Dance Hall to RnB to Trap to Grass Root Golden Age Hip Hop to Pop Ballads, l can go fast l can go slow. I can make it sound dirty l can make it sound clean and anything in between. What you have is belief that's not facts. The only Music l can't honestly do is Jazz! It doesn't resonate with my soul.

Oh since you don't believe you invite me to challenge you in another thread. Bring any track you made from scratch and l will do the same. want and l will do the same. I told you a thousand times my catalog is is sweet straight up. I even just told you how to go fast without playing fast in one shot, use the comp techniques. Do it in chops and pick the best one, professional keyboardist do it all the time AND GET OFF THE DAM GRID! But you're telling me, no this and that :Sigh: I can make tracks from sctatch and get down. Aren't you the same dude that claimed l didn't have chords in my Bob Marley track when l did? Lmao

You're buggin! It's not that serious. Just chill and have fun. Im grown you can't tell me what to do and how l do it son!

You even suggested l play with ONE FINGER :WTF: :lol: You still think l do? You think l didn't do the track in my sig either? :shock: :lol: CharlesRandolph l do what l want. Oh by the way you can't suggest that l not participate here lm the top founder who had the idea of starting this.
Here's my vid of me playing with ine finger lol l told you lm not Enoch!!! I'll leave that track up,see who own the copyright and come and make me take it down if it's not mine!

You and l one on one, one track, one battle. We'll let Lamp post it up. How many days do you need? Since you like to rush people to make music.
In a funny way lm kind of flattered :!: And you don't think the supossed MOTOWN track is mine? :lol: fell out. Bro lm surrounded by singers lol smh In my vid skip past the talking.



Peace

CharlesRandolph wrote:DANOC: If you're going to be in this challenge, we need to hear "YOUR" music. Bob Marley was you, but I do not believe this is your track. Based off of all the other songs, you've submitted. Same thing goes for the MOTOWN inspired track. Keep it 100 or don't participate.
By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:03 pm
Snippets of things you've posted. It's clear as day the last track is not you. :lol:



Piano Skills:

1. You barely moved from middle position.
2. You're constantly hesitating, searching for basic chords and fingering.
3. The video clearly shows, you're a beginner/novice. Because if your body knew the keyboard, you wouldn't have to look at the keys or search for basic triad position.

This is the piece I'm currently practicing and it's kicking my A$$. Like throw away my piano mad. :nod: I just don't have the control, feel, and speed. So I'm back to practicing arpeggios, ascend and descends runs on the piano. I say this because the person, who playing those keys on that funk song, should have no issues with playing Chopin: Fantasie-Impromptu Op 66. At least in the right hand.

By CharlesRandolph Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:04 pm
NearTao wrote:Brilliant Chopin piece... you probably just kicked off my start to listening to classical music again...


The pianist is amazing, his control, timing, feel, and accuracy is +1000. Mastery level for sure, you can see the easy in which he plays. His max effort appears effortless.
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By Danoc Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:14 pm
:Sigh: CharlesRandolph. You know what bro you don't use common sense. My vid is old you dont think l got better. I wasn't hesitating either. Smh.

Lets not mess up the thread. Are we going to battle? Just cause you sstruggle at something doesn't mean l will. I been rockin since 94.
Why should anyone have to prove anything to YOU! If you claim l took someone's music you should swiftly kick my arse. :popcorn:

CharlesRandolph wrote:Snippets of things you've posted. It's clear as day the last track is not you. :lol:



Piano Skills:

1. You barely moved from middle position.
2. You're constantly hesitating, searching for basic chords and fingering.
3. The video clearly shows, you're a beginner/novice. Because if your body knew the keyboard, you wouldn't have to look at the keys or search for basic triad position.

This is the piece I'm currently practicing and it's kicking my A$$. Like throw away my piano mad. :nod: I just don't have the control, feel, and speed. So I'm back to practicing arpeggios, ascend and descends runs on the piano. I say this because the person, who playing those keys on that funk song, should have no issues with playing Chopin: Fantasie-Impromptu Op 66. At least in the right hand.

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By Eyalc Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:16 pm
What up folks!!!! Apologies for being silent. Was only on my phone, and I’m not trying to view a forum on my phone.

So my entry - appreciate the feedback! It’s interesting - first I’ll say this. Although I come from this era, and I LOVE electric / electro funk music, it’s definitely not my core. All of my released music, none of it is hip-hop. Not because I don’t love it - because it doesn’t flow out of me - probably similar to what Danoc described about him and jazz. When I was putting this together, and started thinking... damn, this could be a cool song. And that was the beginning of my departure from a hardcore hip-hop sound - at least I’m thinking that where I chose the blue pill instead of the red pill. LOL. Then as the lyrics starting coming together (because I wanted to make a full production this time), I knew I was on a different path, but I wanted to finish the song so that you all could hear where my head went. I think NT, you were the one that said my submission has an electro sound (maybe CR you said it too), but it didn’t fit squarely in the genre, and I 100% agree. That said, I’m happy with how the song turned out. And I’m actually hopeful to finish tweaking it and releasing it sometime next year. And one thing folks - if I ever “win” a challenge, you can be sure what I choose won’t be in my comfort zone. First, that’s not fair to everyone else, and second - I want to get better - so I need to live outside of my comfort zone.

And with THAT said... MAAAAAAAAN I’m SO glad this round brought some HEAT!!! Here are my thoughts:

Bees80 - Man, THIS is the genre. This track would fit perfectly on the Electric Funk series. If you played this for others from the era and asked “you remember this song?”, I’m betting someone would say yeah, I think that’s the Jonzun Crew. Very nice submission. Man I’d love to have this track in my car to listen to - yes I have an electric funk playlist. Haha

CR - Man, THIS is the genre. I think this track would fit perfectly on the Electric Funk series too. Likewise, I think you could also fool people into thinking this was created in 1985. For me this challenge is between you and Bees80. I’m leaning toward Bees80 only because I think mix is “cleaner”, but I get your angle - I think the heavier beat in yours would drive the dancers to do that one extra backspin before laying out. I think Bees80’s would fit more in a car or radio. So if the rules were - it has to be more of a breakin song, I’d go with yours hands down. Since that wasn’t specified, I’m torn between these two. I’ll decide in a bit. But man, EXCELLENT submission. I can hear how this time you went for a completed production. I’m gonna need this one for my car too. Haha

NT - Glad you submitted this! Feels like a solid foundation for something that could become epic. I know you were limited with time and had some issues, so I think what you were able to get done is solid. The mix is cleaner than last time too, which is nice. I want to listen to yours a few more times to really get a feel, and then I want to read your description again too. Great background. All in all, I’ll say the something similar to last time, man you have a good feel for capturing a sound, I’d love to hear more of your finished work (not time constrained battles or challenges). I have a feeling your work would be NICE. And by the way, I could see a completed submission vying for top spot in a challenge.

Danoc - Maaaan, this is nice! I think, similar to mine, it doens’t quite capture the electric funk vibe. This hits me more like when electric funk started to branch and influence other genres like jazz and R&B. You have the Rhodes runs in there (I did the same), and that for me is what moves it away from this genre - there was no Rhodes used in this genre - I knew that’s what made mine divert from the genre and would make my submission less relevant - and on the low, I was hoping there would be entries that would stick closer to the genre than I did, because I knew I was missing the mark. However yours I think, is closer to the mark than mine is. All in all, solid production.

CD - Man, this one is a SOLID foundation. It seems like the last challenge too - you started with a solid foundation, but didn’t have the time to get something completely done. Similarly, I’d love to see you really get a chance to focus on a production without time constraints (and life constraints - realize that’s not possible all the time). With your work schedule I know it’s difficult. But man, if you had all the time and peace that you needed, I could easily see your submissions vying for the top spot (easily). That said, the mixing this time is better. I can tell you definitely put more time into it. Very nice foundation.

Okay, so that’s my feedback. I’m gonna chill today listening to these more. It’s gonna be CR or Bees80 for me. Not sure which. You two BROUGHT IT.