Is there a list of available MPC standalone plugins?

NearTao wrote:The skinning of those plugins is just replacing graphic files, so while interesting, is probably one of the easier things to hack into a firmware most of the time.

To get 3rd party plugins to work would require an API of some sort that could manage Audio In/Audio Out/Midi Data/CV Data/etc...

I'd imagine the easier thing for somebody to hack on would be to try and get the Hype Synth over to the MPC from the force, but that'd assume that it's a real plugin and not just compiled into the Force executable.

The best way to get at this kind of stuff would be with a dev kit, but barring that, it becomes pretty gnarly to start figuring out the build roots for the application, build out library dependencies, replace whatever Akai has created without having docs, etc... It's not to say that it's impossible, but for most people it is far more work than what you'd get out of it in the best circumstances... Even if there is an API interface that could allow third party apps, without a header file to declare what the function calls are, parameters, and returns... it becomes a huge problem to figure out how to map all of these things. Again... it's possible, but it then relies on somebody with serious debugging skills, particularly in the ARM environment, to be able to rip these things apart and understand what they are doing.

I've got a lot (not all) of the necessary background to get into this stuff, but I feel like I have better things to do with my time... like actually make some music

Well, the skinning that Bonsaipanda did is far more than anything anyone has ever done with the current gen-MPC's in the past several years, so while you may think it's rather simple/easy, all I can say is it appears they're the only one that has ever done it. They also poked around the internal structure and settings file to find the ARM (CPU) Hard Float VST reference. I'm just stating, Antic's comments above might hold some merit is all.

I just meant that replacing the graphics is easier (relatively) compared to porting plugins to the current MPC line at this time. No disrespect for the amount of work involved.

Anyways... I hear ya man

Menco wrote:A haiku on this matter:

I want to make beats
READ THE **** MANUAL
I’ll never be famous

Menco man... that's vicious

NearTao wrote:I just meant that replacing the graphics is easier (relatively) compared to porting plugins to the current MPC line at this time. No disrespect for the amount of work involved.

Anyways... I hear ya man

Only overtly sensitive people would take that comment as disrespectful.

or

Why apologize
Snow flakes can't deal with the truth
That is how they think

My job usually involves managing snow flakes... it bleeds into how I respond to other things in the real world sometimes

I also didn’t really apologize here... so suck it

But back on topic, I thought there was more standalone plugins. But I guess they're just expansion packs.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

NearTao wrote:I just meant that replacing the graphics is easier (relatively) compared to porting plugins to the current MPC line at this time. No disrespect for the amount of work involved.

Anyways... I hear ya man

Only overtly sensitive people would take that comment as disrespectful.

or

Why apologize
Snow flakes can't deal with the truth
That is how they think

You have nothing of value to contribute, so sit down and let the grown ups talk. No need to stoke flames when there aren’t any, Charlie.

EnochLight wrote::popcorn:

What were your RCA (Phone/Line) results?

Plugin List.

AIR Distortion: Instantly adds color to audio signals with multiple modes, and scalable amounts, of distortion.

AIR Enhancer: Enhances the low and high broadband frequencies of an audio signal.

AIR Ensemble: Applies fluid, shimmering modulation effects to the selected audio signal.

AIR Filter Gate: Highly-acclaimed plug-in that chops an audio signal into staccato rhythmic patterns with variable filtering, amplitude, and panning.

AIR Flanger: Applies a short modulating delay to the selected audio signal.

AIR Freq Shift: Shifts the audio signal's individual frequencies, creating a unique effect.

AIR Fuzz-Wah: Adds color to an audio signal with various types, and varying amounts, of transistor-like distortion.

AIR Kill EQ: Instantly mutes the Low, Mid or High broadband frequency range independently from an audio signal - a popular effect with DJs and is commonly heard in contemporary electronic music production.

AIR Lo-Fi: Bit-crush, down-sample, clip and rectify the selected input signal.

AIR Multi-Chorus: Applies a thick, complex Chorus effects to an audio signal.

AIR Non-Linear Reverb: Applies a special gated or reversed Reverb effect to the audio signal, creating a synthetic, processed ambience.

AIR Phaser: Applies a phaser to an audio signal for that much sought-after "wooshy," "squishy" sound.

AIR Reverb: Applies Reverb to the audio signal, creating a sense of room or space – perfect for Effect Send inserts or Main Effects inserts.

AIR Spring Reverb: A faithful emulation of the classic spring reverb sound.

AIR Stereo Width: A useful plug-in that creates a wider stereo presence within the source audio.

AIR Talkbox: Instantly add voice-like resonances to selected audio signals.

AIR Channel Strip: Specially written for MPC this channel strip combines multiple sections with a super-fast interface for getting incredible results. The equalization section features a high-pass filter, low shelf, high shelf, and a fully parametric mid-band. The dynamics section includes AIR compressor and gate algorithms, which are perfect for achieving hard-hitting drum sounds.

AIR Compressor: A production mainstay. Use this Compressor to change the dynamic range of a signal by automatically reducing its gain if it exceeds a certain level.

AIR Delay: A classic stereo delay featuring a feedback path that has a filter within it to shape the tonality of the repeats. The Ratio and Width parameters enable you to a achieve a wide range of stereo delay effects.

AIR Diff Delay: Delay line effect that is synchronized to the session tempo and uses an adjustable amount of diffusion, thus emulating the dissipation of echoes in reverberant space.

AIR Filter: Applies a filter to an incoming audio signal and then applies a selectable type of distortion and reduction to the filtered signal.

AIR Maximizer: A limiter specifically developed for professional mastering.

AIR Noise Gate: A classic gate effect with a dedicated denoise section to achieve a smoother gate effect with less audible chatter.

AIR Para EQ: Four-band parametric equalizer with four independent EQ ranges.

AIR Pitch Shifter: Transpose the pitch of incoming audio; a range of pitch shifting algorithms gives you a variety of flavors to experiment with.

AIR Pumper: Pumper creates a rhythmic pumping effect, similar to that of sidechain compression, with an assignable speed, depth and envelope shape.

AIR Transient: Add more attack to drum sounds, reduce the level of reverb or increase the sustain level a bass guitar.

AIR Tube Drive: Emulates the sound of the signal being played through a mildly “overdriven” tube amp, creating a warm, smooth-sounding distortion.

NearTao wrote:

Menco wrote:A haiku on this matter:

I want to make beats
READ THE **** MANUAL
I’ll never be famous

Menco man... that's vicious

Life as an Akai user is vicious

Still recovering from a lot of emotional wounds.

NearTao wrote:I think you're putting the cart before the horse in assuming that a sort by manufacturer infers the ability to load third party VSTs. For all we know the plugins are hard complied into the software. Unless you've got proof that the plugins are standalone, and that you or somebody you know has actually compiled VSTs or some other format to arm, on linux, and gotten them to show up in the plugin list I have to call BS.

I'm only pointing to the fact that it was apparently planned and to certain extent is developed for in the system. MPC Software runs also on PC and Mac, so question of porting between OS-es and CPU architectures is kinda moot, especially if we have no clue what level of abstraction the API is at. For all we know it's like REs for Reason, which are OS agnostic.

So I stick to my comment - Bees' analogy is failed, because no one goes to McDonald asking for Whopper, but - only reading the manual and browsing the MPC menus - one COULD expect there are some other 3rd party plugins.

antic604 wrote:one COULD expect there are some other 3rd party plugins.

Please explain why someone could expect that if it's not advertised in the manual or anywhere in akai's marketing or promotion.

CharlesRandolph wrote:What were your RCA (Phone/Line) results?

That has nothing to do with your attempt to gaslight.

Please get back on topic, the conversation is getting interesting.

You first.

bees80 wrote:

antic604 wrote:one COULD expect there are some other 3rd party plugins.

Please explain why someone could expect that if it's not advertised in the manual or anywhere in akai's marketing or promotion.

"third party plugins" are mentioned in User Guide FOUR times, in addition to - as I already explained - there being an option to sort plugins "by Manufacturer", which wouldn't make sense if they were only planned to be developed by Air