By ringmaker
Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:59 pm
i'm all otb and was very interested when they announced the +, but the lack of outputs makes it useless for me.
ringmaker wrote:i'm all otb and was very interested when they announced the +, but the lack of outputs makes it useless for me.
Ultros wrote:Idgaf what others say, you dont know what is usful til you try it. Think about all the other peices of useless **** that we own and make work somewhere. I am not obtuse to the idea of purchasing one perhaps it has elements that are useful. Lets be honest, these virtualized mpc units we all own are no dream either. They're buggy, lack luster, they advertise features that dont exist, work at all, or the theory is flat out wrong and makes the developers at akai appear to have zero actual hardware experience. What's the difference?
Straker wrote:Putting a cheap Cpu for 10 years old synths that the cheap cpu struggles to handle, doesn't make maschine a new thing.
Let's say it, maschine was already going to be a thing of the past and they just tried to give it a new fashion but it didn't work.
glide wrote:Iam looking at the plus.. Vs the One which has got my attention since akai dropped the amazing Os upgrade..
What drags me to the akai, (Ive been on mpc's since the late 90s.. So I know the structure.. Is
MPC
*versatile lyering, round robin (wich it had cut off perlayer ala 4k.. But simultaneously pad play and round robin is aces
*the loop tail function (loop in release ob 4k)
*4x Fx every pad + pad fx
*two lfo's multiple waveforms/noise go into audio rate
Yet the Machine ia built incredibly slick /highest quality encoders, beautiful casing, slick has USB class compatible option for IO
Machine
*The flow is amazing.. Instant access to seq comands /realtime?
*LOCK STATE.. IS OFF THE WALL/. Does the mpc have anything like that?? .. This feature is highly atractive.. Dont think any box has ever gotten this so right
* The plugins sound way better compared to akai, Ni syntha are on another level vs the akais ( curious: has anyone compared the drum synth in a A/B?
Its a tuff call.. I dont know what the fx structure is like on the machina.. But I like waht akai has done (downloaded beats and and I like the fx.. Very akai crispy and detailed.. Any comments on how they compare to 3rd party vst?
Akais new loop and pad fx are attractive but NI workflow, synth sound s and lock mode are amazing..
Ive heard complaints avout the sampler filter and fx quality in the Machine..
I would highly appreciate if someone who has solid experience on both units could chime in... Please no fan boy crap... Just a honest take on fidelity and quality.. Filters and fx, envelopes speed/snappyness and the sampler modulation options.. straight sample playback of the same sample on both units vs whole mix (summing) qualities /frequency..
And Can eather machine do cc independently from note track (ssort of like modular sequencers) without 3rd party vst?
How is mapping 3rd VSTs to qlinks handeled.. Can I use the touch UI to control VSTs?
Anyone have insight on the OS roadmap for eather device?
Thank you
Ultros wrote:Idgaf what others say, you dont know what is usful til you try it. Think about all the other peices of useless crap that we own and make work somewhere. I am not obtuse to the idea of purchasing one perhaps it has elements that are useful. Lets be honest, these virtualized mpc units we all own are no dream either. They're buggy, lack luster, they advertise features that dont exist, work at all, or the theory is flat out wrong and makes the developers at akai appear to have zero actual hardware experience. What's the difference?
John Doobie wrote:The encoders on the Plus still have jitter. I owned two.
Same with MK1, MK2, MK3.
The pads on the Plus are excellent though. And the Raum reverb is gorgeous. The sequencer is still pretty barebones. Editing without a computer is a pain the *ss.
I gave up on Maschine (and all of NI) because of the encoder jitter. And overall build quality is just bad, really.