Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By jpeg Mon May 08, 2023 9:11 am
Juxx wrote:there is a social media MPC Civil War Brewing... Yekes! :popcorn: :smh: :shock:


it really blew up last night between youtuber iamsight and producer ea ski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx-IaTDtgco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrNcxWpqfm8

producers beefing over mpc sound quality :popcorn:
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By Juxx Mon May 08, 2023 10:23 am
pedro_oliveira1993 wrote:I'm close to getting an SE. A 2500 SE that is. So, since I won't be getting an X, at least I'm entertained with all this drama. I hope they keep going :lol:



I guess E A Ski was friends with Andy Mac for years even had him on some of his songs.
EA Ski is saying AKAI has done well workflow and product design but we deserve better "sound converters." :hmmm:

Others(Mpc Gang) are saying Shut up and take what you get. :hmmm:

EA Ski is also kinda pissy about this being the MPC 35 year anny and Rodger Linn is still cut out of his legacy. Said they are going to have a stream together talking about it.

WIN WIN for us if they make enough stink we get better stuff... if not we just get the same shit.. which aint that bad anyways.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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By Menco Mon May 08, 2023 11:18 am
Going to pick up mine in a minute. Been a hardcore 2500/500 (and a 1000 on and off) user for years. Have a One since a couple of years I just can't that quick and familiair with as with the 2500. Mostly it's switching between Q-link banks, missing some transport controls and still having to use the touchscreen a little bit too much to my liking. I really like a lot of things about the new gen MPC's, so I am hoping I can get that 2500 feel with modern day features and a more future proof machine for the next two decades to come.
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By pspsounds Mon May 08, 2023 12:07 pm
I see what he’s talking about. I own the X and the 4000. The sound quality in the 4K is far superior. Especially when you change it to 96khz. A lot of that is overlooked because of the workflow improvements from the X.

It’s a slower approach compared to the X but I’m happy with the results. Even if I make something on the X I like to run it through the 4K.

To each their own.
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By HanHuman Mon May 08, 2023 1:31 pm
Menco wrote:I really like a lot of things about the new gen MPC's, so I am hoping I can get that 2500 feel with modern day features and a more future proof machine for the next two decades to come.
I was in the exact same situation with the exact same hopes, that's why I ended up getting the X. Still too much touchscreen and convoluted UI to my liking but it is as close as it can get. I still praise the JJOS for being the best OS of all but there's too many very convenient modern features with the new ones.
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By kja Mon May 08, 2023 1:35 pm
pspsounds wrote:I see what he’s talking about. I own the X and the 4000. The sound quality in the 4K is far superior. Especially when you change it to 96khz. A lot of that is overlooked because of the workflow improvements from the X.

It’s a slower approach compared to the X but I’m happy with the results. Even if I make something on the X I like to run it through the 4K.

To each their own.

They don't go that high, 24 but 48khz is the highest.. but honestly.. nobody was ever trying to finish a whole song on a 3000 either.. they both have good points. I agree with both to some extent, what I don't get though is just dismissing everything extra the new ones do.. nobody should be expecting perfection if you are making a whole song in one box.. it will sound like it came from one box, matter what you use.

Think of it like this, just to play there other side for a minute, yes I agree, but .. three se cost $2500, and is being sold as basically a whole studio.. man I have synth's that are current, that cost twice that, and just do one sound.. obviously they sound better.. obviously.
Look at all those connections on the back, if you want to make a whole song, have it come from different boxes..
Back in the day, people would track the 3000 on different channels one at a time, etc. They built the song up one track at a time.. so it was coming from different places.. that is how you make space. You can't make a x sound like a whole mix from a desk and pro tools with plug ins on every channel.. it is coming from one box.. I hope that makes sense and that is how I feel about it.. I think the converters are fine for what it is for, but it is not a studio in a box like they try to sell it as.
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By pedro_oliveira1993 Mon May 08, 2023 2:02 pm
Juxx wrote:
pedro_oliveira1993 wrote:I'm close to getting an SE. A 2500 SE that is. So, since I won't be getting an X, at least I'm entertained with all this drama. I hope they keep going :lol:



I guess E A Ski was friends with Andy Mac for years even had him on some of his songs.
EA Ski is saying AKAI has done well workflow and product design but we deserve better "sound converters." :hmmm:

Others(Mpc Gang) are saying Shut up and take what you get. :hmmm:

EA Ski is also kinda pissy about this being the MPC 35 year anny and Rodger Linn is still cut out of his legacy. Said they are going to have a stream together talking about it.

WIN WIN for us if they make enough stink we get better stuff... if not we just get the same shit.. which aint that bad anyways.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:


Tbh I think the whole situation it's a bit childish.

Blocking people on IG because they expressed their thoughts in a public platform vs ranting daily about some shit a company sells and the truth that everbody needs to ear. I mean, wtf. But he's probably right about the sound. Idk, never had an old MPC, I'll take his word. I also think a lot of people talk about sound without having a clue about what they're saying and would probably fail a blind test.

Akai is gonna do what they're gonna do and won't give a f. They obviously don't like to be critized. But being fair to them, Iamsight bashed the MPC Studio MK2 and still got an X SE.

It's also f'ing stupid to pretend they didn't hype people about this. "Oh the youtubers, the community". Bullshit.
"35 years, wooo woooo. Here you go, a Timbaland Live II rip off and an X with a paint job".

Still, saying shut up and take what you get is f'ing dumb. Bunch of fanboys and shills. I don't get the concept of sucking a brand's dick. I mean value your money, make sure you get a product good enough for your hard earned cash. Companies aren't imune to criticism. Guys like that deserve to get capitalism rammed up their ass. I wish Akai took notice of what we actually say and provide some customer service. I mean, I bought a One, then got a Live, now I'm getting a 2500. I obviously like the brand and have 0 issues with giving them money. If they listened, I would give them MORE money.

I think the Roger Linn criticism is fair. I mean, the man invented the thing. Talking about the MPC legacy is talking about him. I mean, who tf is Andy Mac in this equation?

All of this sounds fake and full of ego shit. I think if they make enough stink we're gonna be exactly the same. Akai is gonna keep doing what they want. People are gonna be mad, people are gonna be super happy and that's it. I mean what does EA Ski think? That Akai is gonna change their strategy because of his videos? They're gonna call him and say, "Man you're right, run this for us". They're a company, period.

And again, the man is probably right. But we live in a "for profit" world. Obviously Akai will create and market stuff for the bedroom producer. Like me and most of us. The world changed, tech changed.
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By Koekepan Mon May 08, 2023 2:39 pm
I have the solution to all the youtube drama, for all the dramallamas and dramaderies.

Nobody wants to hear it, but I have it.

Go to one of the competition websites - a neutral party like mix-challenge.com or thasauce.net - and have them do a double blind, multi-stage battle.

Go on, you think your beat-salami is fatter and slappier than the other guy's? Whack it down on the slab, and let's hear the public's opinion. If it doesn't measure up, we'll all know soon enough.

B-Wise: I don't believe it actually exists, but it should, shouldn't it? For the same crowd who thinks that bling means talent. I bet they could sell a sparkly Keys for $3K.
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By HanHuman Mon May 08, 2023 2:42 pm
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LMAO… :Sigh:
I prefer not adding more comment.
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By kja Mon May 08, 2023 4:02 pm
pspsounds wrote:Image

Yes the 4K goes to 96KHZ. If you switch to this mode, you lose 2 effect slots and memory.

Yes I meant the new ones don't go that high. The 4k does.
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By MPC-Tutor Mon May 08, 2023 5:35 pm
jpeg wrote:
Juxx wrote:there is a social media MPC Civil War Brewing... Yekes! :popcorn: :smh: :shock:


it really blew up last night between youtuber iamsight and producer ea ski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx-IaTDtgco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrNcxWpqfm8

producers beefing over mpc sound quality :popcorn:


Interesting to hear the talk about people with roots helping in the MPC community, I am banned from his Facebook group MPC Gang, no idea why, I even chased it up to ask him direct, via Facebook messenger, never even got a response. Never had any direct interaction with the guy, ever, not now, not in the past, so no idea what the issue is.