hyena wrote:B-Wise wrote:You never know. These modern MPCs won't be modern in the future & may have something that people in the future prefer over the future modern MPCs.
We have people in modern times saying they love the classic 1k/2500 for its grimey sound, but when thehy first came out people was said they sound too clean/transparent.
Also, remember there's a point in the future where your dead & won't ever know what will become a collectors item. 
i personally think that current line of mpc's, just as many other pieces of GOOD gear around us these days, are too intertwined with computer software , this will lead to a different kind of obsolescence and that's why i too think they will not be collectors items or "classic" machines in the future, while a piece of old hardware like an s-950 , with its olda$$ floppy disk drive and stuff, is more hackable and in general doesn't rely on contemporary informatic technology to work good. new mpc's with their wifi connection, need to rely on inmusic servers for stuff will probably be forgotten in 20 years...but yes, who knows...
on a side note, 1000\2500 are in a kind of league of their own only thanks to jj , the only models of mpc's who received a very revolutionary third party os (ok, we had valixi but that's more a conservative upgrade than a full blown rewrite\revolution of the machine capabilities). without jj i think noone will ever consider buying a 1000\2500 in 2024...as you said these machines are not known for their sound, their character, only for the versatility of their sequencer and sampler, and only with jj onboard...
I gonna stick to my initial statement. You wrote all that for nothing. None of know what people will want as a collectors item in the Future. I also said it may not need to even work for some collectors. Plus the main parts of them are dont need computer. What are you talking about JJ is the "the only models of mpc's who received a very revolutionary third party os"? There's hacked versions of the MPC & Force & we don't now how far they gonna push that OS later, which is why it's not easy to predict the future.
I didn't say these things aren't know for their sound character. I said people back then thought it didn't sound as good as the older MPC. They were too clean, but now, in modern times, there's people that want them because they say it's has a grimey sound. People in the past would've been like
to that.
You love the MPCs with JJOS & so do I. Luckily it still being updated. People still used them for what their great at which is sampling & MIDI sequencing & the look the modern MPCs you don't need a computer for that.
All I'm saying is that it's pointless to try to predict a future classic. Once again, you never know with these things & you may be dead in the future when or if these things are ever considered collector items. Please let's not start another circular argument. Let's just agree to disagree & keep it moving like Soul 2 Soul. Peace.
