By B-Wise
Mon Jun 22, 2026 1:48 am
In short, if your music skills is corny no quality of gear will help & they shouldn't had used Fabric filters in the same 3 "Vintage Synths" 

B-Wise wrote:In short, if your music skills is corny no quality of gear will help & they shouldn't had used Fabric filters in the same 3 "Vintage Synths"
Lampdog wrote:B-Wise wrote:In short, if your music skills is corny no quality of gear will help & they shouldn't had used Fabric filters in the same 3 "Vintage Synths"
The clonage of “analog dreams” engine is crazy to me. Multiples of the same exact thing w/ different samples, then again, umm, MPC Live.




B-Wise wrote:Good to know. I haven't gotten any of the NI or Spitfire plugs, but I plan on getting the at least 1 of the Sf. I guess if look at each company engine as one big-ass synth & each plug is like a those sound cards on the old Roland Jv/Xv & EMU romplers from the 90s. So I'm cool with their approach & with the 10-day trial you can sense what pack of waveforms work for you.

MPC-Tutor wrote:B-Wise wrote:Good to know. I haven't gotten any of the NI or Spitfire plugs, but I plan on getting the at least 1 of the Sf. I guess if look at each company engine as one big-ass synth & each plug is like a those sound cards on the old Roland Jv/Xv & EMU romplers from the 90s. So I'm cool with their approach & with the 10-day trial you can sense what pack of waveforms work for you.
The NI plugins all have the same 'engine' created (presumably) by AIR. They take the raw wav files from the original Kontakt instrument and effectively use them to create 100 little keygroup instrument presets that can be played and somewhat edited through the engine. These keygroups are very basic, single layer with note stride 3. (as were the original kontakt instruments).
So really what you are getting is a custom keygroup player that routes you to a plugin UI rather than use the native keygroup track engine. If Akai were to offer a way of customising the keygroup track UI we could make instruments like Analog Dreams all day long. For example, my Vintage Synth Odyssey expansions each feature 100 keygroup instruments built around a similar structure (1 to 4 layers, note stride 3, lots of FX and editable params for customisation), so converting these would be easy.
I did notice that Tom Nice Things (Akai Force youtuber now on the Akai dev team) made a casual remark about how with the oscillator update we just need custom UIs for keygroup tracks, so maybe this is a hint that this is happening...
J.O.BEATS wrote:I recently just tried the Terrace Martin MPC3000 emulation plug in and if you like the sound of recording hot into classic mpcs you can’t go wrong with it. Really nailed the distortion/clipping. Akai would be wise to do something similar

Lampdog wrote:But, @$20.30, they are cheap, very flexible and still sound good.
I had bought Analog Dreams, liked it, saw that Cloud Supply looked exactly the same, review videos showed the same menus, I thought maybe something was different, welp, only the samples are different. I didn’t buy any of the other ones that look exactly the same. I left it at that.
J.O.BEATS wrote:I recently just tried the Terrace Martin MPC3000 emulation plug in and if you like the sound of recording hot into classic mpcs you can’t go wrong with it. Really nailed the distortion/clipping. Akai would be wise to do something similar
personM wrote:there is a "data.qbqz" file in the synths/native instruments folder.
i remember a company called cubiqaudio and i presume, it got eaten by ni. so now its in the belly of inmusic too
i guess, this file contains all the audiofiles. so maybe one could easy swap the file and the preset files with some other.
the ui wouldnt change, but who cares.
its not tested and i´m just letting my brain spit some thoughts out. i dont recommend doing such a thing.