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By drumat!c Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:34 am
Cheers Doc- I'm a beatpacker and you's a meat packer so it's on homey.....you ready for me to bring that shit to you......yayayayayaya.....it's on baby pa----

By fobedafied Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:33 am
haha, cant wait to hear what you got in store Drumatic...

By elmacaco Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:42 pm
Fobe, that's SO WEIRD!!!!!!

I Just Pooped!!!! ;)

By elmacaco Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:54 pm
oops, just saw it was perpnoob. Sorry ;)
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By docmartin120 Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:42 pm
drumat!c wrote:Cheers Doc- I'm a beatpacker and you's a meat packer so it's on homey.....you ready for me to bring that **** to you......yayayayayaya.....it's on baby pa----


Where U at Drumat!c??? Damn it takes this long for a comeback??? I already have the final chapter in the 2-Part Drumat!c Series finished:

"A Drumat!c Funeral" - coming after you drop that 1993 grit! :wink:
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:25 pm
Doc-

Man you talk a grip of sh*t. I expected a lot more from you. Your out your league in this battle G'. 93 flavor or not, Drumat!ic just has superior skill compared to you. Layering wise, programming wise, sound selection wise.

I hope this "funeral" beat is 10 notches higher then that weak Star Wars theme you were flipping on the first one. If not, this battle for you was lost before it started.
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By docmartin120 Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:09 pm
Who areeee U, money everytime I'm talking to dude (drumat!c) U speak for son. STOP dickridin' so hard and maybe I'd respect you more, ah, maybe NOT thou. :roll:

Out of my league, sh!t I haven't heard ANY mind blowin' sh!t from dude or YOUR crew on ya'll soundclick or myspace sites either, so please STOP the madness already...

And thats NOT Star Wars dickhead!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Goes to show what you know, mister independent label I've NEVER heard of... This doesn't involve You pussy!
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:16 pm
Doc-

Lets put up some facts before you go dissing.

1. This is my thread homie, I'll respond when and where I see fit. I was never through with you. You came at me with some DUMB sh*t, and got your ass handed to you like a Grand Canyon tourist. You moved on and attacked the lesser woven arguments.

2. Thats my man, of course i'm going to support his works. With that said, like Madlib on "Another demo". I have an open mind, and gave your beat an honest listen. I didn't instantly shut it down ether. I played it probably 3-4 times. In the end, I didn't feel it was that tight, and it certainly doesn't stand up to even the weakest of beats my man Drumat!c has. If you want me to critique in-depth why I feel that your beat came mad short, I will.

3. You haven't heard any material from me, cause nothing of mine is on the internet. You need to stop assuming things and spraying sh*t like it's fact. As for you not feeling Drums beats, thats you. Evil Dee, Lord Sear, and Ski didn't seem to share your sentiments. Your entitled to your opinion though. Regardless, I suspect you wouldn't give any of his material a fair shot ether way because of your spite for him in this thread. Deep inside you probably know that dude out classes you, but you'll never admit that. And if it's not of that, i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say your ears are not equiped to handle real Hip-Hop sh*t anymore. Perhaps if he used a 2000XL and a XV5080 with some 1/32t hats you'd show some more love.

4. In regards to the Star Wars theme comment, after I posted the reply I actually took the time to think, "I bet the first thing he trys to point out is that his beat was not from the Star Wars theme". - LOL. Your mad predictable son. Obviously you didn't flip the intro to Star Wars. A non-Hip-Hop cat could point that out. I simply ment that your sample selection sounded like some sh*t that came from a Star Wars type flick.

5. As for my label, you wouldn't know if you heard of it or not because I've never told anyone on this forum what my label is called. Left Behind Records is a guise I use to selling records and studio equipment. Not putting out music. You don't even know my handle in music.. Thier you go with that assumption non-sense again.

6. It has involved me ever sense you opened your mouth like a 19 yr old taking G.E. classes. Witht hat said, sit tight till Drumat!c drops his entry.. We'll let the music speak for itself.

*Winner by K.O. - DRUMAT!C!!!* - That ones for you Doc. :lol:
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By docmartin120 Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:33 pm
Money YOU have got to be the "Lamiest Cat" on this forum!!! You dickride, then admit it, so how do WE know your opinion is REAL??? I JUST had a session with Evil Dee in NYC for the upcoming Beatminers compilation (they bought TWO of my beats for it), so who are YOU foolin, dog??? Is your boy gettin' checks for his beats or just PROPS??? Suckaz!!! You ain't schooled no one, actually YOU got your ass busted by a couple of heads in this very thread. And I didn't know YOU own a thread if you open it... what a cornball!!! This WAS a friendly beat battle between ME and Drumat!c, NOT Me, Drumat!c and Drumat!c's di@k!!! So pipe down, lame and don't say a word dickrider!!!

And a word of advice. STOP quoting cats like a dickrider and maybe it won't look so odvious...
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:19 pm
Are you finished yet? Your comments are lacking nutrition like a Double Quater Pounder w/ cheese.

Heres another fair one for you:

" Money YOU have got to be the "Lamiest Cat" on this forum!!! You dickride, then admit it, so how do WE know your opinion is REAL???"

Lets clarify, Drumat!c is my man. We also work together musically. So I SUPPORT his music, not dick ride his music. I also told you that I gave your music a chance by keeping an open mind. It wasn't put together poorly, it just lacked vibe. The drum pattern was weak, the melody lacked emotion, the layered sounds clashed with the melody.. Just telling you how it is homeboy.

"I JUST had a session with Evil Dee in NYC for the upcoming Beatminers compilation (they bought TWO of my beats for it), so who are YOU foolin, dog??? Is your boy gettin' checks for his beats or just PROPS??? Suckaz!!!"

I can't speak for Drum on checks or props. But for me personally, "give me my props yo". I got other functions to make paper. And I got a family just like you do, the difference is your mentality is compelled by dollars. And just to make things crystal clear for you, of course I make music with the intention to make dollars, but not at the expense of changing up my scripts to get the dollars.

"You ain't schooled no one, actually YOU got your ass busted by a couple of heads in this very thread."

As far as I recall, the only people in opposition to what I've been saying is you and potentially Philly Stress.. and I can't even call it right now if Philly was all that against what I was saying. Even so, no one busted my ass. If you feel thats the case, point out to me, cause thats news to me.

"And I didn't know YOU own a thread if you open it... what a cornball!!!"

Now you know.

"his WAS a friendly beat battle between ME and Drumat!c, NOT Me, Drumat!c and Drumat!c's di@k!!! So pipe down, lame and don't say a word dickrider!!! "

Ain't nothing friendly about this battle. Thiers no physical beef, but you calling my man a racist white boy, and saying his view on Hip-Hop is less crediable becuase of his shell is disrespectful and far from friendly. Do you even thin before you speak man?

"STOP quoting cats like a dickrider and maybe it won't look so odvious..."

My quotes were properly placed to put emphasis and to give reference to my thought. I know your not that stupid are you? Maybe I am giving you more credit then you actually deserve.

Bottomline, I've got every right to express my opinion in who is going to win this battle. And when my man posts, the rest of the Forum will make clear who the winner is.. Rather it's you (doubtful), or my man. What are you going to say if the rest of the forum supports his beat over yours? It's all a conspiracy? They're all dick riders? Or like Tyson, you just don't have the heart for this sh*t not more..?
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:20 pm
^Quotes for days! :lol:
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By docmartin120 Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:00 pm
If the rest of the forum likes your MAN's tracks better, cool. I'm not in the business of changing peoples opinion. I just don't think you should be braggin' that hard on YOUR MAN, period!!! I ain't dissin, I've just heard the Hubert Laws, Bobbi Humphrey etc. samples used better than YOUR MAN. My opinion, just as you have yours!! And if you have a family it is about making money for them, so you can dead that issue!! It's funny how YOU talk about how I "changing up my scripts to get the dollars." hahaha What scripts??? Do you know me??? You have no idea, money. So if people aren't into 'The Golden Era" style, their changin' their style for money??? hahaha... There's more styles in hiphop then just 89-95 duke!! And who's to say I don't or never make that type style of music??? You know what I'ma do like Elm, told me man... peace!!!

By Lord Toranaga Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:31 pm
hey guys, let's calm down a little.

There are no rules to hip hop. period!

hip hop in it's simplest, is like folk music.

"ya'll talk about hip hop, like it is some giant living up in the hills. Hip hop is what is going on in our lives. We are creating it." -MOS DEF black on both side

I know that is wierd, but it is just common people making music with whatever instruments/materials available to them. the reason everone and their brother are making it, is because of the FREEDOM of expression, that the genre provides.

hip hop has always been pop music, atleast world wide since abour 1982 or 1983. It was underground in the 70's, when it was stictly an east coast phenomenon.



it's all about hot beats, intersting sounds, and nice mic skills.

keep the ladies dancing, keep the dude buying drinks, everyone has a good time, sometimes some one gets shot.


we've all grown up with hip hop, and hip hop has grown up with us. It will never be the same as it was, it cannot.


it is like a river. You can never step foot into the same river twice, because it is constantly changing.

The only thing in the universe that is constant is change. hip hop keeps changing like EVERYTHING in the universe.


energy doesn't die it just changes form. The golden era did not die, it gave brth to the new innovators, i.e. madlib, kanye, just balze etc...


for every action, there is an equal and oppisite reaction. hip hop went from being a fad in the eyes of the mainstream, to being the mainstream. Once the market was big enough for people to start making millions, than that has to force a change in the game.

The artist's making millions, make it possible for people like, living legends, stonesthrow, binary star, and all the small time groups to make a living.

The market is huge. Big enough for us all to get a pieceof the pie. some people don't want a large piece, and some people want to eat it all.


That is my two cents.




yo philly.
Thank you for the public apology. I will stop attacking you now.