SINE WAVES

I downloaded a bunch of sine waves. I remember seeing somewhere on the forum a member stated that they used sine waves to make good bass sounds but they never gave any details. Does anyone no how it's done please post. THANX!

Lampdog-

If you are looking for just the basic sinewave bass, you know the one that shakes car windows and junk, you can make it from scratch in just about about any GOOD wave editor. IE, sound forge or cool edit pro.

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Im looking for something that I can use to lay down baselines on drum tracks. How do you do that and how do you make bass that makes windows vibrate in Sound Forge 7.

Try this, put the sine wave on a pad, then put the same sine wave on another pad, set them to layer with the 'simul' function.
Pitch them down into the bass register, and then set them to be 1 or 2 numbers apart in pitch.
Then set the 16 levels on which ever pad is the master (the one that's triggering the other one) and play your bass lines. Also mess with the mixer levels on those two pads, it might sound better to have one slightly louder than the other.
You could also set up a third pad with the same sample -- have it layered also with the other two using the same 'simul.' But pitch this one an octave higher than the other two (+120)....but turn down the volume on this pad so that it's barely heard. This will give the bass a little more definition.

Just something to try.

Oh, make sure you have all samples in "note off" mode, so you can play it like a keyboard.

And set the sample to loop if it's short!!!

dj_2xL wrote:Lampdog-

If you are looking for just the basic sinewave bass, you know the one that shakes car windows and junk, you can make it from scratch in just about about any GOOD wave editor. IE, sound forge or cool edit pro.

That would be me, yes sirr. Itchy's process is very good also.

This is what I do:

1. Open Sound Forge 7.0
2. (from main menu) New
3. (from main menu) Tools, Synthesis, Simple, 1 khz sync tone
4. (from main menu) Effects, Pitch, Shift
5. Change Semitones and Cents to wherever your heart desires, hit OK.
From here now you can cut however much off from the end, save as wav 16bit 44khz and load it into your MPC. Have fun. From here is where Itchy's idea takes over.

Sup ItchyVinyl..

What you need to make a proper sine wave bass line would be an actual synth generator. You mught have the sine sample, but if these samples are not meaty enougth, you would have to actually tweak the synth wave. I have two recomendations. One, get your hands on a budget synth! There are so many boxes out there that cost next to nothing, that can produce PHAT waves... Korg ea-1 synth module. This unit is very easy to program, and has hands on wave modeling. This box would be perfect for bass lines, and wicked synth loops, but not ideal for for more complex applications. Or get something like a Yamaha AN200. You want to look for something that has preferably analogue modeling, if not, get a synth box with virtual analogue modeling.

If you dont want to get a synth box or keyboard. Here is another idea!

I have become good friends with the guys at my local guitar center location. If I really need a sound, I actually take my mpc in there and sample away. But it is very important to be known as a good customer first. They dont exactly like giving there sounds away.

Lampdog wrote:

dj_2xL wrote:Lampdog-

That would be me, yes sirr. Itchy's process is very good also.

This is what I do:

1. Open Sound Forge 7.0
2. (from main menu) New
3. (from main menu) Tools, Synthesis, Simple, 1 khz sync tone
4. (from main menu) Effects, Pitch, Shift
5. Change Semitones and Cents to wherever your heart desires, hit OK.
From here now you can cut however much off from the end, save as wav 16bit 44khz and load it into your MPC. Have fun. From here is where Itchy's idea takes over.

Sup ItchyVinyl..

SUP!

you can do it with the FM synth too and you can define your pitch there- so 60hz is a very low c....

greg

breakbeat mechanic wrote:I have become good friends with the guys at my local guitar center location. If I really need a sound, I actually take my mpc in there and sample away. But it is very important to be known as a good customer first. They dont exactly like giving there sounds away.

I used to do this alot at AL&M on military highway in Norfolk back in 94 when I first bought my ASR10. They let me copy as much of their floppy library as I could and let me sample other keyboards and synths while I was there. Everyday I would go in their with like 20-30 disks for like 3 weeks. I still have all those disks in the closet somewhere.