Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By Piecelock70 Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:35 am
Does anyone know if you can take the ordinary sp12 (NOT TURBO) and update it so you get max sampling time? or is the turbo a completley different machine? tried to find out on the net, but it was unclear....

cheers
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By drumat!c Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:14 pm
You sure can.....In fact, the TURBO attribute of an SP-12 Turbo is as simple as upgrading its internal memory.

Good luck coming across an upgrade kit. Those babies are rarer than bushwomen labia lips on a white girl. *See article below----

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/baker4.html

By dfacedxa Sat Oct 22, 2005 5:44 am
you will find a 12turbo easier than the upgrade. and considering they dont cost that much its an easier route. start lookin for lots of 5.25 too. n drum that shit is nasty i thought it was a sp12 link
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By Piecelock70 Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:26 pm
i'm lookin at a normail sp12, and its about £150, that's cheap!
But the sp12 turbos usually go for a lot more...when u say the upgrade is hard to get, how hard is it ?

By mpc3000le Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:15 pm
drumat!c wrote:You sure can.....In fact, the TURBO attribute of an SP-12 Turbo is as simple as upgrading its internal memory.
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/baker4.html


Reads like here-say Drumat!c ...

A fact about the Turbo upgrade for those who need reminding, don't know any better or have not read the TURBO UPGRADE install documents.

...and some stories from my bench this weekend.

2 x SP12 TURBO

1 with OS 2.4 ( Loony Tunes World Series 85 Model )

1 with OS 2.6 ( What's his name memorial model )

1 x SP12 STANDARD

With OS 2.5 ( yes ... an OS not listed on the Emulator Archive ).

The TURBO upgrade is a combination of:

RAM ( quite a few old school RAM chips for expanding the SAMPLE and SEQUENCE memory )

ROM ( containing the TURBO OS )

and ...

A custom Programmable Logic Array ( PAL ) chip for decoding the extra RAM added during the TURBO upgrade.

RAM an ROM components are easy to source.

The PAL is security fused and difficult to dump and clone unless you're a skilled hacker.

My suggestion ???

Purchase a TURBO UPGRADED SP12 and save your self the hassle of trying to source an upgrade.

Rohan.

PS: Both SP12 TURBO machines are now running at version 2.6. One has had just about every Tantalum and Electrolytic capacitor replaced. One has had it's boot screen hacked. All have had their memory batteries changed. One had its AD chip changed. They are all VERY groovy !!! :-)
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By Piecelock70 Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:39 pm
ok, thanks for all the help.
But how much am i lookin at paying for the turbo in the uk?
standard ones go for round £170?

Does anyone heere live in the uk and have an sp12turbo???

By ntalec Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:10 pm
I think you are missing the big point.

A SP turbo kit isn't something you can create and it's not something you will find for sale.

If by some chance you were able to find one for sale it would cost you a lot more than the difference in price between buying a SP12 turbo and what a SP12 would cost.

Unlike most used old or discontinued items the SP turbo kits were never just floating around, they were either installed in units or still in EMU stock.
The EMU stock got depleated after the release of the SP1200 when SP12's became and cheaper option than the 1200.
This in turn led people to purchase the kits from EMU for the SP12's they were buying used.

By mpc3000le Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:52 pm
ntalec wrote:A SP turbo kit isn't something you can create and it's not something you will find for sale..


Correct ... I stated this in a round about way above.

Ntalec's confirmation too folks.

Are we all getting this yet ??? :-)

Rohan.

By earwolf Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:11 pm
mpc3000le wrote:
ntalec wrote:A SP turbo kit isn't something you can create and it's not something you will find for sale..


Correct ... I stated this in a round about way above.

Ntalec's confirmation too folks.

Are we all getting this yet ??? :-)

Rohan.


yes, i believe what you are saying is that turbo upgrade kits are freely available and inexpensive. is that correct?
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By binger0 Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:11 pm
no. he is saying that the turbo kits are very hard to get a hold of so you are better off getting a sp12 turbo with it allready installed. to find the turbo kit itself though is very hard to do.

By MPZ60 Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:51 am
Save up for an SP1200 and catch one cheap on eBay. The turbo's go fro around 500 and you can get an SP 1200 on a good day for around 750, worth the extra 250 as you could get back twice that if you decided to flip the 1200........ Trust mah