Chopping up Samples on the 3000 and making new samples

is it possible to chop up a sample on the 3000 and make a new sample and add it to a pad but still keep the original sample. You can do it on the 2000XL by going o the edit screen and just hitting new sound. I wanted to chop a sample up in eight different pieces and add each piece to a seperate pad but keep the original sample. Is that possible?

it is explained in the faq

The way we do thing on the 60/3k maybe backwards compared to newer mp's.

i'm curious too, and i'm sorry but the FAQ to me is a bunch of jumbled up things to me. it's too long for me to go through with simple questions.

unorganized information is just noise. if there were a proper searching mechanism it'd be easy to go through them and utilize the faq, but without that, or even an index its way too difficult.

Just copy and trim, it's all logical.

Its called Zoning. Here ya lazy bastid...

"Chopping on a 60 (3.10 OS)

Record and save a sample that you want to chop.
then go back to the sampling screen and set your sample time to 0.1 second and sample nothing (silence). If your Threshhold is too high it won't trigger the sample with silence, but if you have your Turntable hooked up and the needle on the record (which, since you are sample, should be the case) you just need to bump the TT or the table it's on and it will trigger the sampler without sampling any noise. Silence is not critical though.

save the sample and do it a few times (for as many chops as you need).

The go to the main sample in the edit sample page (Sounds > 6).
Set the play X button (Soft Button 3) to play zone [it's on the right, second field from the bottom] and set the zone on what you want to extract.

Once you got it, hit copy zone to temp.
Then go to one of the blank samples, still in Edit sample screen, the zone should be set to .100 on both start and end.
Go to the the <do it> button field at the lower right where you select copy to temp and delete before soft start, etc. Change that to INS TEMP TO ZONE END.
Once that's copied, you need to set the soft start and soft end how you want it, wide open if you zoned it right, but the soft start should be at 000.100.00 which is the silence that created the sample.
Then go back to the <do it> menu and set it to delete before soft start so you can delete the silent 0.100 that you started with when you press <Do it>.

I'm quick with that now. It sounds more complicated than it is, once you do it a few times you zip along. Its not the fastest method, most of my samples I just do straight from vinyl, but if I grab a bunch of hits in a sample, I'll zone them out this way.

the smaller the zone the less time it takes, so I tend to use it for drums, whatever the longest section of the sample is, that's what I keep there and then zone out the smaller bits I want.

at it's worst it takes about a minute, but it can feel like forever, sometimes it takes a while and you just gotta leave it alone, also you gotta make sure that where you are pasting is right in the zone field, I had an error once where I had the zones at zero and I pasted something and the machine stayed pasting for too long so I shut down, I consider that a crash, but I did something stupid, that's why it happened,

The something stupid was:

I deleted the .1 second section before pasting, so the sample had no data, and the zone was still set to 00.100.00 so it was trying to paste in a non existant location. It only was possible because I delete the silent sample first, the zone settings didn't update, normally it won't let you set the zone beyond the sample length.

be patient, it can really give good results. Another good thing is if you set the zone to how you want it but don't have a silent sample to paste to, you can go sample it and then go back to the sample edit screen and your zone stays how you set it unless you switch sounds in the edit screen. When you hit sounds 6 after sampling the silence, you go right back to the same sample with your zone settings Intact. Copy it into temp then you go to the new silent sample and paste. I am not sure if you can copy the zone to temp and then sample the silence, I wouldn't recomend it though, I think the temp memory would be cleared when you enter sampling.

I like the control of sampling into the 60, I can turn stuff up or down and get different results, plus I love chopping on the 60, for longer samples I just back cue the record and sample and trim again, but for short things I do the zones, and sometimes for long things depends if I am feeling impatient or not.

Everyone witha 60 should know how to do this and try it at least once, and get to know that do it menu, it's got play before zone, after zone, before soft start, after soft start, so you can do really precise chops and edits like pulling out pops and clicks with the Silence zone feature."

aww, arent you special.

3001 wrote:i'm sorry but the FAQ to me is a bunch of jumbled up things to me. it's too long for me to go through with simple questions.

unorganized information is just noise. if there were a proper searching mechanism it'd be easy to go through them and utilize the faq, but without that, or even an index its way too difficult.

3001 wrote:i'm curious too, and i'm sorry but the FAQ to me is a bunch of jumbled up things to me. it's too long for me to go through with simple questions.

unorganized information is just noise. if there were a proper searching mechanism it'd be easy to go through them and utilize the faq, but without that, or even an index its way too difficult.

And yo you gotta be kidding me man. Its on the FIRST PAGE.

i won't even touch it:-)

if you copy and trim the samples that way it works fine, but it doesnt actualy cut the sample size which takes up allot of memory. That is another problem. I would like to cut them and save as that small size.

Nah man you just delete before soft start and after soft end yo....

you can delete the zone from the original sample.

you can also record as many "slices" as you want just by setting sampling time to 0.1 and making "empty" samples.
Just do the copy zone>tmp, paste at zone st as you wish then.

Btw, you can make some crazy stutter effects if you rechop a sound with silence between them.

.toon

Anyone got any tips for doing it on the ole' 2.14? Just wondering...

i just figured it out my way. I take a sample that i want to cut into 16 pieces and i copy it to the first four pads. I then trim the 3 first pads and take the sample thats on the fourth pad and copy it to the next four and trim to the 7th pad, and then so on to 11th and to the 15th pad and lastly i trim the sample on the 16th. It saves me memory trimming one by one. And for those that don't know what i am trying to do is I want to take a 2 bar sample and cut it to all 16 pads so i can play it to the beat and mess with it. Sounds so good on the 3k.