
By distortedtekno
Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:08 am
peezie wrote:in short, the sequencer.
co-sign!
roland grooveboxes are too limited in that aspect, let alone the weak potentiometers they've been using for their knobs for the past 10 years or so. this goes for the mv8000 as well (cheap pots). plus the sound is rather thin compared to the punchiness of the mpc.
By tunepoet
Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:31 am
Heya;
I had the same question a week ago before I bought my first MPC. I have been sequencing on a computer for so long and i wanted to grab hold the energy of an MPC. The Roland is a great box, but if you have a computer, it is a bit redundant. It is also hospital sterile in its energy.
It does everything well, but without any real spirit about sound making. The Roland is a great and mature choice, and may suit you more than an MPC, but if you want to connect to the heart of sampling and programming, the MPC really does give you that feeling of being part of some grand tradition. The beat maker equivalent of a Fender Stratocaster Guitar. Way simple, but unbeatable for that classic feel.
Even when i brought my 2500 home, i was nervous, cause i was not sure if it would expand my creative sense, as my computer sequencer and sampler can do a million more things. But my fears were diminished when i generated my first base line on the MPC. It has feeling.
Like analog process over digital process. In some ways, a bit more awkward than a computer or even the roland, but the pay off is a musical character that you just will not find as easily in another box. The MPC forces you to be a better song writer, because the computer or even the roland gives you so many options, that you can pile a weak track under a mountain of cheese, and never get the best of what you could be doing.
The MPC is about process and feel. Analog over digital process. Less sophisticated, but with much more character. You may feel better on the Roland, but I would guess you would have more fun on the MPC. Just my currently held point of view.
Blessings,
Damon
I had the same question a week ago before I bought my first MPC. I have been sequencing on a computer for so long and i wanted to grab hold the energy of an MPC. The Roland is a great box, but if you have a computer, it is a bit redundant. It is also hospital sterile in its energy.
It does everything well, but without any real spirit about sound making. The Roland is a great and mature choice, and may suit you more than an MPC, but if you want to connect to the heart of sampling and programming, the MPC really does give you that feeling of being part of some grand tradition. The beat maker equivalent of a Fender Stratocaster Guitar. Way simple, but unbeatable for that classic feel.
Even when i brought my 2500 home, i was nervous, cause i was not sure if it would expand my creative sense, as my computer sequencer and sampler can do a million more things. But my fears were diminished when i generated my first base line on the MPC. It has feeling.
Like analog process over digital process. In some ways, a bit more awkward than a computer or even the roland, but the pay off is a musical character that you just will not find as easily in another box. The MPC forces you to be a better song writer, because the computer or even the roland gives you so many options, that you can pile a weak track under a mountain of cheese, and never get the best of what you could be doing.
The MPC is about process and feel. Analog over digital process. Less sophisticated, but with much more character. You may feel better on the Roland, but I would guess you would have more fun on the MPC. Just my currently held point of view.
Blessings,
Damon
"How you treat others is how you treat yourself"

By jaem
Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:46 pm
tunepoet wrote:I had the same question a week ago before I bought my first MPC.
hey yall seen that movie with richard pryor and gene wilder "hear no evil, see no evil" ?
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By tunepoet
Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:19 am
Re: NEW GUY HI AND RESPONSE
quote:
Originally posted by tunepoet:
I had the same question a week ago before I bought my first MPC.
hey yall seen that movie with richard pryor and gene wilder "hear no evil, see no evil" ?
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I saw parts of it. Was not very good. Pryor and Wilder were too talented to waste what was left of their careers on a movie that amateurish. Came across like it was written by a 12 year old kid who's creative influences did not extend beyond comic books and video games. A really embarrassing display.
Why they did not step back and objectively observe what they were doing, so they might have done it differently, rather than go blindly forth without checking themselves, was a really ignorant move. You know when someone produces somethihg of of such low quality, but everyone tells them it is fantastic? Same thing. A bunch of "yes men" in the production department who do not have the guts to say "you know, this is really beneath you."
Pryor and Wilder were wasted on that film, and it shows. I would have put a bag over my head and left the theater with my tail between my legs. Thanks Jaem. You make a good point.
Blessings,
Damon
quote:
Originally posted by tunepoet:
I had the same question a week ago before I bought my first MPC.
hey yall seen that movie with richard pryor and gene wilder "hear no evil, see no evil" ?
_________________
I saw parts of it. Was not very good. Pryor and Wilder were too talented to waste what was left of their careers on a movie that amateurish. Came across like it was written by a 12 year old kid who's creative influences did not extend beyond comic books and video games. A really embarrassing display.
Why they did not step back and objectively observe what they were doing, so they might have done it differently, rather than go blindly forth without checking themselves, was a really ignorant move. You know when someone produces somethihg of of such low quality, but everyone tells them it is fantastic? Same thing. A bunch of "yes men" in the production department who do not have the guts to say "you know, this is really beneath you."
Pryor and Wilder were wasted on that film, and it shows. I would have put a bag over my head and left the theater with my tail between my legs. Thanks Jaem. You make a good point.
Blessings,
Damon
"How you treat others is how you treat yourself"
By theminsk420
Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:34 am
hey yall seen that movie with richard pryor and gene wilder "hear no evil, see no evil" ?
is that the one where pryors blind and wilders deaf?? that is a great **** movie[/quote]

By Fung45
Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:48 am
tunepoet wrote:...the MPC really does give you that feeling of being part of some grand tradition. The beat maker equivalent of a Fender Stratocaster Guitar. Way simple, but unbeatable for that classic feel.
I disagree. I usually compare wack samplers to Fenders, while the MPC is more like a nice 1960 Gibson SG with humbuckers and brass machine heads.
By orjanbeats
Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:07 am
Fung45 wrote:tunepoet wrote:...the MPC really does give you that feeling of being part of some grand tradition. The beat maker equivalent of a Fender Stratocaster Guitar. Way simple, but unbeatable for that classic feel.
I disagree. I usually compare wack samplers to Fenders, while the MPC is more like a nice 1960 Gibson SG with humbuckers and brass machine heads.
A Gibson SG '60 is far from the best guitar. I'd say that the MPC is more like a Suhr Classic (perhaps a Scott Henderson model).

By Fung45
Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:16 am
I wasn't making the comparison because I think the MPC is 'the best' or the 60(61)Gibson SG is 'the best'. 
By gyename2000
Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:17 pm
Fung45 wrote:tunepoet wrote:...the MPC really does give you that feeling of being part of some grand tradition. The beat maker equivalent of a Fender Stratocaster Guitar. Way simple, but unbeatable for that classic feel.
I disagree. I usually compare wack samplers to Fenders, while the MPC is more like a nice 1960 Gibson SG with humbuckers and brass machine heads.
The Fenders, especially the Tele's ( some Strats) are really inconsistent and the Gibsons Les Pauls take my playing to a whole new level, so I would say that MPC is closer to Gibson and Roland closer to Fender. Roland makes quality products but they don't have the same bang that Akai's MPC's have.

By distortedtekno
Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:46 am
Nowadays (over the past 10 years), MPCs are more like Epiphones and Rolands are more like Squiers. 


