STEP EDIT

Step edit is best learned by banging out a sequence in real time then studying it in step edit mode. Thats how I learned. Adds realness to your drums like crazy. Its been around as long as I can remember and Im talking 1984-85 dr.rythms and r5,r8's all used them. Probably went back further but thats how I always fine tuned my sequences. You all should really get into it at least for touch ups on your sequencing.

at LEAST.

Pendulum wrote:That would be useful but it's not what it does.

The setting of the TC% field lets you say how long each step entered note will be, expressed as a percentage of the current timing correct value. The note position is still gonna be set according to the Now field.

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sweet. thats a **** cool feature.

step edit is great just be sure you save before you get into it. That's the only time my 1000 ever crashes on me

I don't think there's a single sequence I've ever created that I didn't go into step-edit mode after to refine it. I usually use it to make fine adjustments to the note velocities. By using the display filter, you can view particular CC messages -- very handy indeed. I haven't used it to create arpeggios though. I usually play those in real-time. I guess all those years of practicing Hanon finally payed off.

Peace \/
Chisel

Chisel wrote:I haven't used it to create arpeggios though. I usually play those in real-time. I guess all those years of practicing Hanon finally payed off.

Man that's quick!

Another way to create those fast melody lines is to slow the sequencer right down low, set up TC to 16th's (or even 32 if your feeling funky) and then bang out a melody line. Now when you bring the tempo back up the fun begins.

A good tip is to double the metronome value when recording to have more of a guide when playing at such a low tempo.

jigginz wrote:Man that's quick!

Yep. Check out the arpeggio that comes in at 1:10. I played that in real-time. Sorry for the poor mix. One day I'll go back and remix it.

FirstSS2Song

Peace \/
Chisel

This thread came at the right time for me.
After using this MPC basically as a drum sampler for the past few years, I was beginning to get tired and bored of the various TC.
I've never used step edit cause it was too confusng, but I was playing with it today, and recording various loops, each one with different values in step edit. Then comparing the wave-forms, to see what they were doing.

It sounded much better. I will use it from now on. But I'm still confused, especially if you make loops that are 4 measures or longer.
That's a lot of information to manipulate.
I'm just guessing every move in step edit, then listening to the results.
It would be nice to really know what's going on.
I guess I'll attack that manual, even though it makes my eyes glaze over.

I've never used step edit cause it was too confusng

i had no idea this was an issue among mpc users.... frankly i'm surprised. is it that confusing? it's just notes and time...

I declare Chisel "The Human Arppeggiator" !!

Antonym wrote:

I've never used step edit cause it was too confusng

i had no idea this was an issue among mpc users.... frankly i'm surprised. is it that confusing? it's just notes and time...

That's why I brought it up!
Nobody seems to know what's going en in there (S.E)!

thanks, then. seriously, i thought everyone was familiar with step edit.

listen - if you don't plan on using step edit, sell your mpc and go buy an sp303 or 404 for half the price. STEP EDIT MAKES THE MPC WHAT IT IS...if you're not using step edit, you are selling yourself short and you fail to see the mpc eye to eye.

it'd be like using reason without ever looking at the sequencer....

me finding out that people don't use step edit is like a little kid waking up one day to find out that everyone in his village died overnight of some strange alien sickness that he alone is immune to.

this is some twilight zone shit.

Antonym wrote:

I've never used step edit cause it was too confusng

i had no idea this was an issue among mpc users.... frankly i'm surprised. is it that confusing? it's just notes and time...

well, MIDI itself is pretty confusing for a lot of people. So once you start talking about manipulating the actual MIDI data, I'm sure its over a lot of people's heads.

Antonym wrote:thanks, then. seriously, i thought everyone was familiar with step edit.

listen - if you don't plan on using step edit, sell your mpc and go buy an sp303 or 404 for half the price. STEP EDIT MAKES THE MPC WHAT IT IS...if you're not using step edit, you are selling yourself short and you fail to see the mpc eye to eye.

it'd be like using reason without ever looking at the sequencer....

me finding out that people don't use step edit is like a little kid waking up one day to find out that everyone in his village died overnight of some strange alien sickness that he alone is immune to.

this is some twilight zone ****.

honestly, i try to not use step edit. I just try to bang it out right so i don't have to go there. But its inevitable i'll dig in to step edit once or twice a track.

Antonym wrote:me finding out that people don't use step edit is like a little kid waking up one day to find out that everyone in his village died overnight of some strange alien sickness that he alone is immune to.

lol. not strictly the same thing.

Antonym wrote:that he alone is immune to

who are you, Jesus?