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By Nino304 Tue May 23, 2006 11:41 pm
Philly Stress - I think cats misunderstood your post (myself included) because there is no way 2 sequence "live" instruments.

The http://www.electrixpro.com/products/repeater.html link shed some light on what u r trying 2 do. This looks like an interesting product but ultimately I think it is just a real robust sampler to allow work with large loops. According 2 the specs, it appears 2 work much like a hard disk recorder with added sequencer functions. Think: The Roots and they way the record their jam sessions and convert them in2 songs. U could probably achieve similar results with any modern sampler with a long sample time.

Ableton Live is also a viable option if u r using live instrumentation. It incorporates a number of the features listed on the Repeater. My boy demo-ed it 4 me and he had loops triggering, MIDI going and live guitar all being recorded at the same time. Hope u find the software/hardware solution u seek. -uno-
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By erkl Tue May 23, 2006 11:51 pm
that electrix repeater has nothing to do with sequencing live instruments, and is a way overpriced piece of gear IMO
electrix is very budget.. not that its a bad thing, i have a filterfactory and its great for what i paid..

if u have n MP u dont want that reapeater trust me...

if you wanna use live instruments, play whatever u want into your amp/soundcard into your computer, isolate the sounds you want, then sample them to your MP.. the same way youd sample anything else

you physically play live instruments, your cant sequence them, only record them. then sample.then sequence

knawmean...
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By Philly Stress Wed May 24, 2006 5:22 am
erkl wrote:that electrix repeater has nothing to do with sequencing live instruments, and is a way overpriced piece of gear IMO
electrix is very budget.. not that its a bad thing, i have a filterfactory and its great for what i paid..

if u have n MP u dont want that reapeater trust me...

if you wanna use live instruments, play whatever u want into your amp/soundcard into your computer, isolate the sounds you want, then sample them to your MP.. the same way youd sample anything else

you physically play live instruments, your cant sequence them, only record them. then sample.then sequence

knawmean...


I meant record Bass and Guitar as MIDI. This you do with the repeater but in short loops...

By dfacedxa Wed May 24, 2006 2:25 pm
if you have no mics or daw as stated in your wishlist of crap you cant afford how can you mic live instrments or record them at all? direct line to something? you should have made this thread how do you sample live instruments. good luck with that lil box tho.

if you wanna use live instruments, play whatever u want into your amp/soundcard into your computer, isolate the sounds you want, then sample them to your MP.. the same way youd sample anything else

you physically play live instruments, your cant sequence them, only record them. then sample.then sequence


well put

By earwolf Wed May 24, 2006 3:05 pm
jesus christ stress you have issues on top of issues
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By switch18 Wed May 24, 2006 5:06 pm
erkl wrote:that electrix repeater has nothing to do with sequencing live instruments, and is a way overpriced piece of gear IMO
electrix is very budget.. not that its a bad thing, i have a filterfactory and its great for what i paid..

if u have n MP u dont want that reapeater trust me...

if you wanna use live instruments, play whatever u want into your amp/soundcard into your computer, isolate the sounds you want, then sample them to your MP.. the same way youd sample anything else

you physically play live instruments, your cant sequence them, only record them. then sample.then sequence

knawmean...


Unless....you get a Parker Fly Bass/Guitar that has MIDI and record the audio and data. You would have the MIDI notes you played on guitar/bass & the audio you recorded onto an audio track.

OK, OK, OK....I know what you meant!!!

:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :D :D :D :D
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By Philly Stress Thu May 25, 2006 1:16 am
dfacedxa wrote:if you have no mics or daw as stated in your wishlist of **** you cant afford how can you mic live instrments or record them at all? direct line to something? you should have made this thread how do you sample live instruments. good luck with that lil box tho.

if you wanna use live instruments, play whatever u want into your amp/soundcard into your computer, isolate the sounds you want, then sample them to your MP.. the same way youd sample anything else

you physically play live instruments, your cant sequence them, only record them. then sample.then sequence


well put



It's called going to the studio for a couple of hours... :o :shock: :?
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By Philly Stress Thu May 25, 2006 1:25 am
Here what electrix says about the repeater:

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Repeater is the next step in the evolution of loop-based music production. To the studio musician, it gives a power to arrange audio that was normally reserved for MIDI. Live musicians can safely sample and integrate loops into their performance with almost no learning curve. Repeater's algorithms are tailored to making the looping process simple and intuitive.


I should be fairly easy to record Bass & guitar loops and sync them to midi
with this.
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By rokuez Thu May 25, 2006 1:34 am
that thing is a waist of money just get a PC with a decent soundcard and cubase , nuendo , ableton etc (media production systems). you will be able to do everything that u could do with that electrix repeater and more. hardware is on the way out its all about DAWs

By sleestack Sat May 27, 2006 5:24 am
trends are bullshit. Gear is always nice.
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By rokuez Sat May 27, 2006 7:41 am
i don't think its a trend so much as a technological advancement. a computer program's functionality & the fact that PC technology (cpu's and such) are just getting faster and faster & will always outpace hardware in terms of production cost for a company and overall consumer value.

Here is a good example of consumer value for the top end consumer. Would u rather buy a motif es8 and have limited o/s upgrades until the new yamaha workstation is released. Or would u rather buy cubase sx , logic, pro tools, ableton whatever and have
1) the chance to most likely continuously upgrade your "music program o/s" so to speak with new releases that have expanded functions and abilities for u to create music.
2) Also how does hardware with the limited screen size compete with a DAW's dual lcd's or even single screen? Daws excel at mixing lots of tracks for a budget
3) DAWs are more all in one and have more of an ability to communicate with different corporate companies music making programs then music hardware can because music hardware doesn't share the win xp / mac o/s platform like PC's do.

Also there are such great sound programs out via vsti rtas (east west , spectrasonics, absynth, etc ) thats a musician has more options getting vsti and getting what he needs then buying a big workstation and paying for things he doesn't necessarily use.

You also might want to ask yourself this; in maybe 5 or 10 years perhaps the average computer will be so powerful u can have a pda-PC which can handle what todays quatro g5's with max ram can handle.

Gear maybe "nice" it does have the luxury apeal, but the consumer, the people want value and the most bang for their buck.

By fobedafied Sat May 27, 2006 9:48 am
one word for you Philly, google it...


TWIDDLYBITS...

:wink:


these are professionally sampled instruments, complete with MIDI files from the performance... making your own is another thing though, youd need a MIDI INSTRUMENT(a "real" one), which are pretty rare... ive found that most "real" INSTRUMENT PLAYERS arent really trying to flowers with MIDI...
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eh

By Philly Stress Mon May 29, 2006 3:32 am
EHX has a new looper:



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By grimaybeats555 Mon May 29, 2006 3:53 am
Philly Stress wrote:EHX has a new looper:



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Is there anything else out like this but with more tracks?
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By Philly Stress Mon May 29, 2006 11:18 pm
grimaybeats555 wrote:
Philly Stress wrote:EHX has a new looper:



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Is there anything else out like this but with more tracks?


4 track seems efficent for Hip Hop,at least from my stand point.

Like I said I'd used it to record bass and guitar