pad size

Anybody have any thoughts on the size of the pads. are the y big enough or small enough? Im sure But somefeed back would be sweet.

Ive been wanting to get either a 1000 or a 2000xl for a while.

I got a rs7000 right now. Even though you can do a lot on it, I aint havin that much fun using it.

And funs the only reason to make beats you know what IM saying.

What's wrong with the 1000's pads? There are a bit smaller then the ones in 2000, but it is just a question of habit. I mean, you just have to feel them, that's all.

I wasnt knockin the pads because I have never used them. I was more referring to the size of them. If anybody has used to 2000xl and the 1000 if they noticed a difference and if it in some way affected the performance as in accidently hitting other pads etc. or if they were better because they were smaller and easliy accesible.

also kind of a role call on how much fun the mpc pads were to use

peace

OK, hmmm.... I understand your question, but it's like as said: You just have to get use to them. It's like rideing a bike or a car, each of them has a specific handling, but you just have to feel them.
I have used both, and the biggest difference that I have noticed is that the 1000's are a bit more "sensitive" then the 2000XL's, but I don't think it affacts the performance that much.
Even it the 1000's pads are smaller, it is hard to accidently hit other pads. Yes, they are smaller, but they are not THAT small. C'mon... it's not a calculator or a cell phone

So, if you're planning to by 1000, don't worry about the size of the pads. They are fine

effekt wrote:OK, hmmm.... I understand your question, but it's like as said: You just have to get use to them. It's like rideing a bike or a car, each of them has a specific handling, but you just have to feel them.
I have used both, and the biggest difference that I have noticed is that the 1000's are a bit more "sensitive" then the 2000XL's, but I don't think it affacts the performance that much.
Even it the 1000's pads are smaller, it is hard to accidently hit other pads. Yes, they are smaller, but they are not THAT small. C'mon... it's not a calculator or a cell phone

So, if you're planning to by 1000, don't worry about the size of the pads. They are fine

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Remember, although smaller than the 2000 and 4000 series, the pads ARE bigger than the RS... and bigger than the SP1200 hard plastic pads, so totally useable they are...

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now if I can get over the lack of grid recording Ill be fine. It has been my major style of makin beats for about 4 years but it has always felt way to mechanical and lifeless. My recodings have lacked alot of life or groove as some call it. But I still have grid recording on my jx-305 sequencer if need be.

Is it pretty easy to insert fills and stuff at the end of sequences

how does that work on a mpc

just go the end of a sequence and edit the notes at a paticular point in the song or is it completely non linear style

If you still have the jx, then you can easily record the seq from there into the MPC once it's ready...even easier if you do it via computer (mpc takes .mid files).

As for fills/editing, yeah you can do it by hand in the step edit mode, or turn on "overdub" recording, or use punch in & out.

modus operandi for the mpc is overdub...let the sequence loop, and keep adding hits as it comes around..then quantize if needed.

i used to own a 2000 and now i have an mpc1k and i actually prefer the 1k pads and the way they are tightly packed. i like to hold the note repeat key down and walk my fingers over the pads taking advantage of the pressure sensivity and its easier on the 1k.

.....and i bet your 4-year grid habit will be a distant memory after 4 days with an mpc. its a finger-tapping machine, that you can pre and post quantize/shuffle any way you like. yes, its all about the overdub like jksuperstar said.

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Honestly, how long have you had the RS7000 ? It is an amazing machine and in many repects kills the MPC (effects, synths, sampling) The value of the MPC is the sequencer really. If you are used to grid recording, I'd hang in there with the RS. It is a hard machine to get into, but once you do it has a lot of possibilities that blow away the 1000.

If all you want is pads, get the MPD 16 and you'll be straight.

Do you have the latest OS in the RS? Yamaha knows how to do OS updates, not only bug fixes, but adding filter types (12 more) and a bunch of other cool features. Akai never seems to leave enough room to do shit like that.

The only edge the 1000 has is the pads and double the memory (64Meg on the RS) but seriously, make sure you aren't bandwaggoning and making a decision too quick.

Im not really jumpin no band wagon. I have made a lot of music with my rs but I aint really feeling the flow with it for a while now. I have the latest os. I have had the rs7000 since it came out. And I dont really use any of the synth sounds anymore except for some of the bass patches but I have all i need in a synth on the jx-305. I dont use any more pcm drum sounds.

Im just lookin for a way to make it fun again. I have been looking at mpcs for years now. And I never could understand why they were so popular aside from the (your favorite artist uses them part)

Thats not really why I want one. Most of my favorite producers dont even use one. Most use the sp

So then when the mpc1000 came out I said hmmm.

I asked around and they said its the flow. It makes it fun to make music. Its A different WAY TO MAKE MUSIC Etc.etc.etc.

I know the rs7000 has more features than almost every mpc made. I know it has better sampling capabilities, a synth , programmable knobs, eq per channel all that ****

That doesnt always add up to more fun though.

[I know the rs7000 has more features than almost every mpc made. I know it has better sampling capabilities, a synth , programmable knobs, eq per channel all that ****

That doesnt always add up to more fun though.[/quote]

and it certainly doesnt make the RS a better machine.

infact the MPC is also famous for its sequencing groove. as a loigc audio, i too feel this groove w ithin the MPC, although it has a very iregular groove, i feel its more natural and less robotic like how drum parts tend to add up in logic.

logic is still the greatest sequencer for me for finishing my music to a final product.

but for creating drum parts, with a nice feel, thats hard and punchy, and tight, i'de say the mpc wins.

and the 1000's a great machine.

i have one...and now i am also looking to get a mpc 4000 for a more indepth MPC...not that the 1000 is really limiting me.

exactly.

I bought the rs7000 cause of the features. But I dont really need all the features anymore. I almost completely make up my tracks now from digging and the only thing I think i will miss is all the knobs. but I dont really even need them anymore

A little groove aint bad either


I mean if I want grid or step sequencing beats again I should just go back to reason or fruity.

then Im back to square one

OK, you have my blesing ;)

Go for the MPC, it does make it really fun.

Although I know some people that have fun on the rs7000, it doesn't mean you have to be one of them.

I wish i could use both. But I dont have the space and the wife would kill me