Do you really push the limits?

I am starting a new thread, I believe this deserves it. This originated on the 4000 forum. I try to break my equiptment with every mix and every production project. So many peices of gear Have any of you tryied to get in to your gear and create your own sounds. Forget the factory sounds that is for the music store sale, but your signature is what counts. You will find that your equiptment is capable of some things that will open up a whole new world. PCM combo's LFO's & OSC. Combining/experimenting with these along with incorporating samples and mixing, morphing, stretching and layering effects that you tweak, are going to make even them most goofy boards sound totally different. Most of these sound moduals with in the last few years are able to do what the brand new gear that comes out each month are doing. You just have to experiment. What do you think the sound designers are doing? You have access to the same basic principals and algorythms they do. It takes time I know..... A korg Triton is no better or worse than a Motif, Fantom, Proteus, Kurz or what ever... I believe any one who feels different hasn't done anything but rely on someone else's creativity. Do you think a world class Chef depends solely on store bought spices or recipeise? Ofcourse not he/she will creativly mix match and add/subtract what they feel will enhance the reciepe! Artist applies to more than pushing the buttons.
Apply your self. You are capable of so much more. For the newjack did you know the MPC can do more than just looping samples? Are you willing to see how deep it gets?
This isn't a rant, consider it an encouragement to get to know the love of your life and how to romance her.

personally for me. i dont **** with sample cds or sounds.
i like to use alot of noise that exists in songs already, just small shit, verbs, hums, effects, bird chirps. whatever the ****. i find it creates atmosphere.
i love the filters on the mpc as simple as they are. youd be amazed with a little patience and experimentation, what you can create.

Now thats what I am talking about. Experimenting with what you got pushing the limits the best you can trying to break the equiptment overloading what eva!!!!

I wouldnt say I am pushing the limits only because I am still wallowing in the middle of the pool still pushing deeper and deeper to try to get to the edge of that pool, then try to push on the wall on the pool

No seriously though Im still learning my synthesis as well as my mixing/fx skills, I havent spent much time on my Triton honestly I think I've neglected it a great bit, and a main part is because Im still learning how to get some of the beautitul sounds especially acoustic on Triton that exist as presets on my Motif Rack, and I realize these sounds are mainly alot of Reverb as well as other various FX

Any thought on that maybe suggestions or something cool you've came along that made the difference to you? I really know and love the Triton better (cant stand anything besides the sounds on the Motif) plus touch screen love is great my complaint is the lack of the graphical editing leaving me to work with Numbers.. which aint my cup of tea , any suggestions on editing as well, I notice alot of my Tracks on the Triton tend to be laid back, Im having a hard time getting a more aggressive fuller sound like a street track or a clubbish song

Sorry If I blabbed on I just don't find to many people that can help me other than telling me to experiment

Ron, i feel where your comin from, thats how alot of the great producers got that signature sound, pushing the limits, not following the blueprints etc...there is still nothin new under the sun that hasnt been done, but theres original ways to combine those ideas to create ya own sound, feel me? id say im definitely a tweak head like that, i will try to morph/distort a sound to my liking, lately every beat ive resampled to give it a more raw feel..but experimentation is the key to finding ya own sound rather then being the next knock off of a producer

the new Eno article in FM is a great nod towards this but in a different way : kinda that pushing sounds is what it's all about for the up and coming and not enough focus on the core of what makes a good song just that.

i don't know where i'm at on that, sides the feeling that you can hear when it's quantized and not and the push to get away from that.

what i can say is that "limitations" are great boons for the inventive like what you were starting with > dunno bout all boards being created even for the twiddle but i think that the OS is sometimes updated to go uncreative.

for instance, i've got 1.1 on my MC303 and it can tweak well into the non-existant. some of the patches took out the depth of the knobs, a friend with a subsquent purchase and OS update missed out on some of the bass i can get out of it. now i crank it so it distorts on it's own and mic it to mini-tape for some lo-fi fx.

that's kinda where i see pushing a unit > make the flaws shine.

Now this is great. I respect each reply. Icebergslim just start twisting your knobs. I had the same exact problem of every thing being to laid back on the triton in the begining of useing it. I made the most money for one song on accident. $25000.00 because I forgot what I was supposed to be making and I am a nobody that just keeps slipping into these artists with ego's and money to match. Everybody wants a deal and most so called producers are burnt out so I do admit I take advatage of them. They ask my name I can get cocky saying thats not important but they are already hooked becuase the track is ussually playing by the time they ask. They don't know me and that is my edge. Durring my side track I Forest gumped my way in to a few new sounds. I was in the PROG section and royaly screwed up the original tone, but talking so much trash I was batteling these other producers durring a clients setion and they were all ballers. I said I could back up even the wierdest sounds. I put it in the SEQ page timed my effects to tempo and added compression on each drum from the triton. Added internal compression and internal EQ. Whalla. Every rapper was silent they were all writting. I sold two out of two and The others were at 1 for 6.
Right place right motivation. I am a freelance producer wich means absolutly nothing - but it sounds good. The clients always eat it up. As long as your confident. not to say I don't have weak moments. I am only human. My point is just let them hang low and sway......
I am sure you under stand this is not nothing new you would be surprised how many on this forum is in the same boat.
Hollar back.

I feel ya on that, most def

I think I just finished one of my hottest Triton only tracks just by purposely detuning, pumping compression, and just blasting Delays, and Reverbs

I need to work my EQ game though

good looking

I like experimenting with reversing a zone, and also using the slider set to note variation can make for some interesting sounds, you can also slide it up and down while you're triggering the sample on the pads while sequencing and it makes for some interesting changes...