Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By homershines Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:33 pm
To tell the truth, I'd go for the MPC3000 and the S5000/6000 and I'd skip the 12 bit stuff. If you ave some already, keep it. Old gear can become a service problem, older gear "will" become a service problem. Also, the 16 bits are very helpful. Since you use Pro Tools LE, you can dirty up your samples with Plugins.

That's just my two cents.

Peace and good luck.

By elmacaco Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:27 am
Homer's right, but he already has a 60, so the addition of a 5000 or 6000 would be my choice if money is an object. Plus the pads on the 3000 need more force to get to full level than the 60. I think the 60 has the best pad action out of all of them, but this is personal preference.

If you can get the 3000 and the 5000 it would be cool, but your original options,

3000 = 32 mb's 950 = 2mb's ?= 34 mb's

60 = 1.5 5/6000 = 256mb's = 257.5mb's plus more effects filters, usb link, 16 outs on the 5000 alone, no contest in my opinion.

About the armrest, that was a joke, but you say that now, once it's gone.....

get the upgrade and the 5000 and you'll be straight.
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By ikke Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:23 am
The memory isnt an issue! 34 megs is more than enough!

I can buy a 3k for 1250€ and a S5000 (no options, only 136 megs) for 450€

So, if I can count.. MPC60 (750) +OS3+SCSI+memory = 1200€, S5000= 450. Makes 1650€

MPC3000 = 1250, S950 = allmost for free. Makes +-1350€

So, the MPC3000 would be cheaper, so money isnt an issue either!

Oh, and I really want those 12 bitters! So if I go for a 3k + S-5000, I will get me an s-950 to :) Pro Tools' D-fi's plugs are good, but I want to use as less plugs I can, to keep the real sound of the Akai's! (at least once they are passed the Digi convertors) The MPC60 really sounds amazingly good! Very crispy and kickin' sound! The S950 has the excact same sampler engine and convertors as the MPC60.. And indeed comes with 2megs of memory.

I have to make up my mind very soon, 'cause I dont think Im gonna find me another MPC3000 and S-5000 for that price..

My main goal buying an MPC was to get away from the pc.. and work with just 1 piece of gear. So I think the 3k would be a better choice for me since it has more ram than the 60. Though I love my 60 ( workflow, stability and most of all, the convertors and the overdrive function on the back ) so its kind o hard to sell it for me. :?

Now I just need someone to convince me! I know of all the specs of both machines and I know what they re capable of. But need some user excperience!
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By ikke Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:30 am
To Homer: I dont understand.. MPC60 and 3000 are old stuff to.. Even the S-5000/6000 are discontinued. All the stuff I want are discontinued!

There will be men that can fix a broken S950.. just like there are men that can fix the MPC60.

By elmacaco Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:13 am
Same difference then, I would have a hard time giving up the 60.

But a 3000 is pretty close.

By homershines Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:48 pm
Don't get me wrong.
I loved the MPC60. I traded mine up for a MPC3000 years ago. Now, I love that too. My concern is with two things: Service and Capability. To tell the truth, the S1100 was just about all the sampler that anybody would ever need. The S950 didn't have all of those features and most important to me, the memory was an issue too.

In terms of service, there were more S1000, S1100, S3000 and so on in pro studios than S950s. That's why I believe that the service issue will be a problem at some point for a user.

I'm not chumping the S950. It was a damn good sampler and it was awesome in its time. (I still have a Roland S550 !2 bit sampler, that I've been trying to sell. Although when I try, I listen to it and see that color that I like sometimes.) I do think that the romanticism of 12 bit has been a little overboard lately and the re-visiting of the old skool MPC60-S950 Hiphop studio is little interesting too. 12 bit has it's great qualities, but I see it as a color to paint with. If an artist can use it as an element it's great. But if it's a major tool, it could reduce their sonic options. That's just me and my isssues though.

I read your explanation and I have to say that I like your thinking. Elmacaco offers a great idea too. If you keep your MPC60 could you even get both a S950 and the S5000? In the end, it's a matter of taste.

Peace.
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By ikke Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:42 pm
Yeah.. i think Ill keep my MPC60 and go for the S5000. :)

Thx for your comments!

By elmacaco Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:53 pm
Good Choice Ikke!

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By jakob iller Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:23 pm
should you change your mind. i have a s950 standard for sale @ euro 250.
i live in antwerp too. mpc60 / s950 combo rocks!
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By ikke Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:55 pm
jakob iller wrote:should you change your mind. i have a s950 standard for sale @ euro 250.
i live in antwerp too. mpc60 / s950 combo rocks!

You're kidding me right? For 250 I buy a EMU ESI 4000 + extras!!

Ill give you 50 bucks for it..

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By jakob iller Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:07 am
ikke wrote:
jakob iller wrote:should you change your mind. i have a s950 standard for sale @ euro 250.
i live in antwerp too. mpc60 / s950 combo rocks!

You're kidding me right? For 250 I buy a EMU ESI 4000 + extras!!

Ill give you 50 bucks for it..

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