NEW JJ Request

THIS IS WHAT I JUST SENT JJ... WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?:

Hey JJ what's up?

I have a really important request:

- Would it be possible to implement a "PURGE SAMPLES NOT USED IN SEQ" ?

Because of the lack of auditioning samples from your hard disk or compact flash card while the MPC is playing the beat. Which I think is one of the few downsides of the MPC. If purging samples not used in the sequence was possible.. i could just import a program full of different kicks and delete all of those i didnt use in the sequence in one click!

My second request is probably too much wishfull thinking but you never know with JJ:

- Would it be possible to implent more EQ's ?

Maybe only the first 8 tracks... or something which will make EQ'ing your samples a little faster. Instead of having to assign to an FX track and resample in record mode and assign your sample to a new pad and all that stuff.


If you could only fill one of these 2 requests I think even more people will be intrested in OS2.

Thanks for all you have done.

Peace

Tommy

purging samples not used in seq...

with the exception of JJ's audio tracks, samples are never used in sequences. sequences trigger notes within programs, whether there are samples assigned to them or not.

to be able to purge samples not used in sequences as you requested, JJ would have to write code to go through every pad in every program and cross reference them against every single note on every single track in every single sequence to see if it ever gets triggered.

people already complain that purging the samples that are not assigned to programs takes too long, this would take even longer.

do yourself a favor, and don't create programs full of different kicks and simply load drums as you need them.

ok i see you got a point... but the last part just aint cutting it man.
i have a few programs full of kicks and some of snares and all... but normally i just check my drumsounds and listen to what would sound good and load like 4 to 8 samples i think would match the beat. so i also do this for my snares, hihats and all. i just hope there can be a solution because im not deleting all those samples everytime. and im not saying this feature should be implemented because of my laziness... but im pretty sure im not the only one with this problem.
Besides when i still used to work with modplug and fruitloops you could audition samples by accident which you would never think of putting in there and it would make some beats sound crazy as hell!
So i would definately sacrafice some time to have more creative inspiration. ya dig?

do yourself a favor, and don't create programs full of different kicks and simply load drums as you need them.

i agree wholeheartedly but didn't read the entire discussion, only the initial request. i do like the idea, but it's one of those requests that i do believe could be bypassed just with a little more prudence when loading samples. no disrespect or implications, chu. the programmer's time is very very valuable.

also:

feature requests will be taken after MARCH, estimated date of completion of OS2. the programmer has a bundle of key features he wants to integrate before he starts taking requests from the peanut gallery, of which i am an enthusiastic member. (i never did understand the term "peanut gallery")

for that reason, the REQUEST thread above is the best place to post requests, so it's a solid bank of good ideas to be perused by all of us later. post this up there, if you don't mind!

Antonym wrote:

(i never did understand the term "peanut gallery")

Makes sense, it's a ref to the old Howdy Doody show, and we'd both have to be a lot older to remember that (I've just seen the archive clips).


Oh and back on topic, I'm sure everybody would like JJ to implement a general purpose "fix all my laziness" option. I'm sure it would be quite popular, but one big problem would be that JJ would have pick up for everybody else's laziness and do all their work himself!

Then there's those processor limitations...

I can't help with the bug hunt at the moment

I might be able to join the group in march when work lightens up

I'm definitely looking forward to the new features!!

More mixer effects channels! why just 1 and 2. At least 32 different mixer effects channels

elektrik_muz wrote:Oh and back on topic, I'm sure everybody would like JJ to implement a general purpose "fix all my laziness" option. I'm sure it would be quite popular, but one big problem would be that JJ would have pick up for everybody else's laziness and do all their work himself!

Then there's those processor limitations...

haha... the thing is... i was already lookin into the mv-8000 because of this issue. but then i would have to lose over my sound quality and midi accuracy

**** it.... i think i'll just use my mac as my sample library from now on. still got tha DA/AD conversion but well **** it.

elektrik_muz wrote:

Antonym wrote:

(i never did understand the term "peanut gallery")

Makes sense, it's a ref to the old Howdy Doody show, and we'd both have to be a lot older to remember that (I've just seen the archive clips).

Quote from Wiki:

A peanut gallery is an audience which heckles the performer. The term originated in the days of vaudeville as a nickname for the cheapest (and therefore rowdiest) seats in the theater; the cheapest snack served at the theater would often be peanuts, which the patrons would sometimes throw at the performers on stage to show their disapproval.

In the 1950s, the Howdy Doody show adopted the name to represent their audience of 40 kids.

Hippotron wrote:

elektrik_muz wrote:

Antonym wrote:

(i never did understand the term "peanut gallery")

Makes sense, it's a ref to the old Howdy Doody show, and we'd both have to be a lot older to remember that (I've just seen the archive clips).

Quote from Wiki:

A peanut gallery is an audience which heckles the performer. The term originated in the days of vaudeville as a nickname for the cheapest (and therefore rowdiest) seats in the theater; the cheapest snack served at the theater would often be peanuts, which the patrons would sometimes throw at the performers on stage to show their disapproval.

In the 1950s, the Howdy Doody show adopted the name to represent their audience of 40 kids.

what a knowledgable hippo...

Why is it that when you DISCARD unused portions of a sample, it gets deleted from memory immediately, but if you PURGE, it takes like 18 hours to finish deleting?

primebeatz wrote:Why is it that when you DISCARD unused portions of a sample, it gets deleted from memory immediately, but if you PURGE, it takes like 18 hours to finish deleting?

because purging goes through every program to see which samples are not used before deleting them.

discarding part of a sample would be like me giving you a sample and saying "throw this part of this away", whereas purging would be like me giving you 100 samples and 10 programs and saying "go through these 10 programs, and find which of these 100 samples are not used, and throw them away".

purging is a lot of work.

So that's the only way? I don't see why.

arondbeats wrote:So that's the only way? I don't see why.

what other way would you suggest? how is the mpc supposed to know that it can purge a sample if it doesn't go through the programs and make sure that it really hasn't been used.