Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By mistasmijen Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:38 am
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=15726394

Take a listen to Massage situation and green tea leaf dancers.

Do you hear how like every time the kick hits, or a drum hits the whole melody fades out a bit?

Does anyone know if this can be achieved with just the mpc and jj OS?

also, is there any way to do it besides setting the attack and release up really high on the melody?

By Mike Feedback Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:00 am
he just mixed his drums way too high, and then added a lot of compression to the stereo mix to try to compensate.

to achieve this, just do exactly as i said. keep the level of your drums a lot higher than your melody, and then compress the hell out of the stereo mix.
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By undersound Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:05 am
its compresser pumping, "Still dre" is a good example of using it well

By dtaa pla muk Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:47 am
this is best done post composition in DAW, not in the mpc. it's a post production thang.
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By rinseout Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:09 am
Probably sidechain compression, not possible in the mpc ( you could do it manually ... nah forget it)

Simple compression like mike suggested might work too.
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By trybtek Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:15 am
yeah it can be achieved with sidechain compression!

I had an idea to put a sidechain input to the compressor in the effects section, where you could select the sidechain input from a pad and pad level

something like this:

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it could also be useful for basslines and samples to stop the mpc peaking after using filters!

I sent a request to JJ.

Peace!

By tosh79 Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:30 am
i recently got alesis 3630 (super cheap but sounds ok) just for this purpose. works pretty well if you also have mixer.
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By goobadrum Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:59 am
I had an idea to put a sidechain input to the compressor in the effects section, where you could select the sidechain input from a pad and pad level

something like this:



it could also be useful for basslines and samples to stop the mpc peaking after using filters!

I sent a request to JJ.


internal sidechain - me likey !!!

By luthatron Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:39 pm
yeah. sidechain compression.

used in house a lot, and some dnb production (think pendulum sidechain a lot to the snare...)

By littlerob Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:55 am
i use sidechaining in ableton. its an ace trick. only experimented on a basic level. get a dirty electro bass, add a drum track with just a kick, silence that track. add a compression effect to the bass, select side-chaining and select the drum track within the sidechaining options. (this is in ableton). add a second drum track which isnt silenced, preferably using the same drum kit. it will make the kick sound more prominant and sorta fades the bass out every time the kick is heard.

By briancares Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:32 am
littlerob wrote:i use sidechaining in ableton. its an ace trick. only experimented on a basic level. get a dirty electro bass, add a drum track with just a kick, silence that track. add a compression effect to the bass, select side-chaining and select the drum track within the sidechaining options. (this is in ableton). add a second drum track which isnt silenced, preferably using the same drum kit. it will make the kick sound more prominant and sorta fades the bass out every time the kick is heard.


this:

http://www.twistedlemon.nl/site/index.p ... &Itemid=32

is a great tool to achieve this effect.
there is no need for a silenced kickdrum or else.
and also works if your daw does not support sidechaining.

works great for me.