By shimmyshimmy
Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:51 am
The best part of these newer samplers is that you assign programs directly to a track
I can't see anything that would make it adventage.
The best part of these newer samplers is that you assign programs directly to a track
shimmyshimmy wrote:The best part of these newer samplers is that you assign programs directly to a track
I can't see anything that would make it adventage.
Blue Haze wrote:Post didn`t go through the first time.
For me I see multis as keyboard work stations BANKS.
I can load in like just simply 4 Multis like a Jazz Multi, R&B Multi, Classical Multi, or House Multi.
Each multi will have all the instruments and sounds for the different genres of music.
along with different effects, outputs, and layering with the controls.
I simply switch the Multi when I want a entirely different soundplate.
Plus I use the multi for layering all my blend like 5 programs on just one track not several cuz I then can use my midi keyboard knobs and faders to automate the programs pitches, amplitude, timbre by controllers on the same track.
Pop open my seq edit page hit the graph editor and set up qlink or part control to draw in automation like ableton clip mode to for each program assign to a part.
In Multi-mode, I can assign these tracks to the same MIDI channel (to blend the sounds) and use the MIDI keyboard to further shape the sound. This can be recorded by an external sequencer. The internal sequencer will not record all these instruments on one track. You would have to copy one track to the other 16 tracks. The 5000 does have a Q-link editor where you can enter automation data as you see fit. The 5000 does not come up short in the Q-link and automation departements.
As I wrote in another thread...multis for layering sounds would be cool although I can do the same within a keygroup program. But if I had no choice but to assign a program to a multi before I could use it in a sequence, I would frown upon that.
shimmyshimmy wrote:each program have to be assigned to a part. you assign parts to track
Askia Shaheed wrote:
The best part of these newer samplers is that you assign programs directly to a track.
Askia Shaheed wrote:They can even receive program changes from external devices to change these programs as you see fit. This is how Akai brought back the workflow of the MPC which changed directions with the MPC 4000.
Askia Shaheed wrote: On each track, you simply dial up the program you want. If you want to play an external module connected to MIDI OUTPUT A at the same time you play an internal program, set the track to MIDI 01A.
Askia Shaheed wrote:Now I get the idea of a multi. I am not sure if I even need this in a sampler based upon how the newer MPCs handle programs. But in reality, these MPCs (including the MPC 4000) have 64 voices. So all the layers means nothing when you try to exceed 64 sounds playing at once. Increasing the sample rate....you have even less voices.
Askia Shaheed wrote: Instead of hyping a 512MB sampler that is inferior to almost any software sampler on the market,
Askia Shaheed wrote:
You wrote that the MPC 4000 has an unlimted amount of programs, which is not accurate. Stating that the MPC 4000 can hold 65,000 samples is also inaccurate. No..that is a flat out lie.
Askia Shaheed wrote: EVen if it supported 10,000 samples, this is useless.
Askia Shaheed wrote:This is just forum babble.
Askia Shaheed wrote:MPCs still has only 64 voices and further talking about layering more samples/programs that it can actually play at one time is just to impress people that don't know any better.
Askia Shaheed wrote:
The MPC 4000 is not a Rompler. It is a sampler and all those sounds need to be loaded and/or deleted at one point or another. Loading/saving times then comes into play.
Askia Shaheed wrote:So instead of misleading people, give them the cons about doing what you imply the MPC 4000 can handle. Anybody can do a forum search to see the shortcomings which forum members have written about for years. There were all sorts of reports of people having problems trying to load 512MB of samples into the 4000. This is not dissing the MPC 4000. It is stating the truth.
Askia Shaheed wrote: Instead of hyping a 512MB sampler that is inferior to almost any software sampler on the market, talk about how you can use it with these software samplers. Yes, it is great to have multisample programs onboard MPCs. But the fact remains, you can do much more when the MPC is the center of your music production set-up than if it was your complete music production set-up.