PETITION FOR MPC 60 and SP1200 QUANTIZE on MPC 1000/2500

Can't we ask JJ for a ?uestlove midi template?

rarara wrote:

Sander wrote:I wish JJ give us a higher resolution. That will make your recorded hand played notes sound much more smooth and less static. Doubling tempo is not what I like to do to get a higher ppq.

that takes us back to the original point! the sp1200 has the same resolution as the mpc1000/2000/2500

Wrong. 24 ppqn. Yes I know. I own one.

really?! i was just reading that it was 96. so even with double resolution you can only program on 1/32? is it useable for any other type of sequencing besides drums?

rarara wrote:really?! i was just reading that it was 96. so even with double resolution you can only program on 1/32? is it useable for any other type of sequencing besides drums?

Yep, JaeOne3345 is right... I was skeptical of his statement and just DL the SP-1200 manual to check it out.

24 ppqn.

Even if JJ could make the MPC sound different whether it's adjusting the sequencer resolution or TC somehow, I would prefer JJ make it sound UNIQUE and more user changeable, so as to get a new and different sound.

Why is it so important to stick to the same schtick from 90-94 or what have you? Why does everything that is available MUST sound like it was made in that certain era or by certain machines?

I loved those times and think that was one of Hip Hop's best periods, but damn, I want something new.

Nowadays if I hear that old sound, even if it's technically dope, I can't be bothered to keep listening, because I heard it before and it's nothing fresh or new.

you are talking about a SAMPLER here. sorry to break it to ya, but if ya want a different sound, sample a different record. or get a different synth. the sequencer has nothing to do with your new sound, your programming ability does. its how you use it.

rich_biatch wrote:you are talking about a SAMPLER here. sorry to break it to ya, but if ya want a different sound, sample a different record. or get a different synth. the sequencer has nothing to do with your new sound, your programming ability does. its how you use it.

I play guitar and this reminds me of the guitarists who spend more time trying to sound like someone else than actually practicing and playing. They think all the different effect pedals, amps, and guitar combinations will make a difference obviously it won't, but practice and dedication will...

rarara wrote:really?! i was just reading that it was 96. so even with double resolution you can only program on 1/32? is it useable for any other type of sequencing besides drums?

Think about it, you have 24 pulses (spots) to lay a drum down for every quarter note (the distance between the Kick on the 1 and the snare on the 2). 24 x 4 = 96 spots to lay a drum/sample in 1 bar. So basically, of course you can do 1/32. 1/32 quantize IS an option, along with 1/4, 1/4t, 1/8, 1/8t, 1/16, 1/16T and 1/32T. Hi Res = 1/64T.

Hi Res = 96 spots per bar to lay a drum...(24 per 1/4 note)

1/32 = 32 spots per bar to lay a drum.. (8 per 1/4 note)

Many folks do the double tempo 1/8 auto correction with a swing of 67 or 71%.

I used to. I just use normal tempo and 1/16T, 1/32, 1/32T, or Hi Res. If you can program, your beats won't have any less "swing."

Like I said before I highly doubt anyone could tell me which beats on my page are programmed by the sp. Some beats may use sp sounds but rely on a different sequencer. Some beats may use the sp sequencer but it is triggering different samplers.

Way too much hype on the sp swing. The machine sounds dope and is easy to use. The sequencer is whatever to me. I got tired of not being able to program my synths so I got an mpc as well. (sp only sends note on messages, good for one shots).

I'm going to petition JJ for a Vox Percussion King groove template on the 1000.

ONE wrote:Even if JJ could make the MPC sound different whether it's adjusting the sequencer resolution or TC somehow, I would prefer JJ make it sound UNIQUE and more user changeable, so as to get a new and different sound.

Why is it so important to stick to the same schtick from 90-94 or what have you? Why does everything that is available MUST sound like it was made in that certain era or by certain machines?

I loved those times and think that was one of Hip Hop's best periods, but damn, I want something new.

Nowadays if I hear that old sound, even if it's technically dope, I can't be bothered to keep listening, because I heard it before and it's nothing fresh or new.

Some people constantly search for that one product or feature that will magically put them on Pete Rock or Primo's level.

rich_biatch wrote:you are talking about a SAMPLER here. sorry to break it to ya, but if ya want a different sound, sample a different record. or get a different synth. the sequencer has nothing to do with your new sound, your programming ability does. its how you use it.

True. If your beats aint bangin' now, new features ain't gonna help.

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I still think a double resolution mode would be cool.

Most people who use double resolution are already use to doubling tempo and compensating their quantize settings etc.

But I think it would at least be really convenient. Not necessary, but convenient, especially for people who are using grid edit, step edit, etc. so that all the numbers and values reflect accordingly. I think this seems probably as close as we can get to getting a higher resolution. Otherwise, if JJ could somehow up the resolution that would be cool.

not to bump this thread, but...

i double res every time. even in daw.
it's done awful things to my concept of musical notation, but it's made my music better as far as in betweens go.

i'm a young dude. at this point in my development, anything other than double time resolution is inconvenient to me! i'm just that used to it. even back when i produced in acid pro, i'd often drift back and forth between regular time resolution and double time resolution without realizing wtf i was doing...now, of course, i understand the difference, but doubletime in the mpc is way easier for me.

for example: in regular time resolution, the count in for record/overdub in the mpc is SOOOO SLOWWW for me, i can't stand it. several folks have sent me jjos project files at regular resolution and i haven't been able to stand it, simply because the count in is so slow

192 resolution is great for me.

Yeah dude, I know you double your tempo all the time.

But I guess that's exactly the reason I still wouldn't mind having a double res. mode. You know, so I won't distort my concept of musical notation.

I guess it's just me being lazy, and I hate math. So I think a double res. mode option would be a convenient think for the people who want to use it but still deal with the same numbers when quantizing and editing by hand.

And again, unless somehow JJ could up the resolution another way, this seems like a viable option.

i think a really useful feature jj could include would be a lighter. theres never a lighter around or its out of gas...we need jj to implement a lighter